. >> why does he care what bates motel thinks? why does he let tomand this guy perdue tell him what to do? two guys. >> we talked to president trump this week and he told us he felt like senator cotton and senator perdue were more in line with where he stands. and that he, you know, he was kind of presenting himself as very hard line. >> i thought he was going along with the middle of the road deal with lindsey graham and durbin. i thought that was where he was. >> that was last week. >> that was tuesday and thursday. so here we go into the night, as i said, this is high noon at midnight. i get the sense that the key issue holding up the government tonight, which is the demand of the democrats to do something for the d.r.e.a.m.ers like the young sam we just had on, and the president is indifferent. he's agnostic. he has no position on the issue. he wants the people in the room, as he put it, to do it. >> i think -- well, as always, i think he wants to come out looking the best, obviously, and i think that he is afraid of his baize and looking weak. h