now, one of britain's best journalists, tom bower . still to journalists, tom bower.apher and he's a royal biographer as well. so we'll talk about the covid inquiry. dominic and dominic cummings and king charles in kenya. but first, are the woke greta thunberg brigade all talk and no action when it comes to their green credentials? a new yougov poll certainly suggests so with 90. that's right. 90. almost of all oaps saying they recycle as much as possible compared to a measly 52% of 18 to 24 year olds , 52% of 18 to 24 year olds, despite the survey showing they profess to be the most worried about climate change, pensioners were also more likely to save water, turn off the lights, buy energy efficient appliances and turn down the heating compared to their young whipper snappers youngsters. meanwhile were more likely to have given up meat so gen 2 have been banging on about the climate for yonks now and blaming older generations for a lack of action on saving the planet. but their boomer counterparts are now demanding apologies after the stark survey laid bare their ap

tom bower. good to have you with us. and there you go.s he right about rishi sunak that there the tories under his leadership are drifting to defeat? >> i'm afraid he's right at the moment. yeah. i think from last week has got pretty bad. i mean yesterday's king's speech was a huge disappointment . and the huge disappointment. and the idea that the headline was banning smoking ing when we can't even ban shoplifting, can't even ban shoplifting, can't ban rape , can't ban can't ban rape, can't ban burglary, who's going to enforce this rule? it's just nonsense . this rule? it's just nonsense. >> most most definitely. and it's significant intervention from boris. i mean , that's going from boris. i mean, that's going to be a damaging intervention because support because he still has support within the conservative movement. does. movement. he does. >> mean , the point about >> but i mean, the point about bofisis >> but i mean, the point about boris is that he's responsible for everything that's gone wrong. the man he's wrong. he is the man he'

let's bring tom bower into the conversation. l biographer. tom, do royal biographer. tom, what do you end game so far? you make of end game so far? >> well , i you make of end game so far? >> well, i think it's a rather risible and worthless book written by a man who we've got to remember , completely lied to remember, completely lied about his sources last time, inaccurate his he suggested that he didn't have that much contact with the sussexes and then dunng with the sussexes and then during a trial with the sussexes and then during atrial, meghan's trial during a trial, meghan's trial for privacy and breach of contract and data protection. >> it was discovered that she had actually sent an email where she admitted knowing omid and perhaps wanting to inform some of finding much more than that. >> camilla what happened was he signed a statement saying it was the truth for the trial against the truth for the trial against the mail on sunday, saying it had no contact whatsoever either and no briefing whatsoever from the sussexes.

tom bower. good to have you with us. and there you go.s he right about rishi sunak that there the tories under his leadership are drifting to defeat? >> i'm afraid he's right at the moment. yeah. i think from last week has got pretty bad. i mean yesterday's king's speech was a huge disappointment . and the huge disappointment. and the idea that the headline was banning smoking ing when we can't even ban shoplifting, can't even ban shoplifting, can't ban rape , can't ban can't ban rape, can't ban burglary, who's going to enforce this rule? it's just nonsense . this rule? it's just nonsense. >> most most definitely. and it's significant intervention from boris. i mean , that's going from boris. i mean, that's going to be a damaging intervention because support because he still has support within the conservative movement. does. movement. he does. >> mean , the point about >> but i mean, the point about bofisis >> but i mean, the point about boris is that he's responsible for everything that's gone wrong. the man he's wrong. he is the man he'

let's bring tom bower into the conversation. biographer. tom, do royal biographer. tom, what do you end game so far? you make of end game so far? >> well , i you make of end game so far? >> well, i think it's a rather risible and worthless book written by a man who we've got to remember , completely lied to remember, completely lied about his sources last time, inaccurate his he suggested that he didn't have that much contact with the sussexes and then dunng with the sussexes and then during a trial with the sussexes and then during atrial, meghan's trial during a trial, meghan's trial for privacy and breach of contract and data protection. >> it was discovered that she had actually sent an email where she admitted knowing omid and perhaps wanting to inform some of finding much more than that. >> camilla what happened was he signed a statement saying it was the truth for the trial against the truth for the trial against the mail on sunday, saying it had no contact whatsoever either and no briefing whatsoever from the sussexes. an

anyway the point is, i tom bower on the show i had tom bower on the show yesterday, dickie, and we talkedw, scobie's sources and motivations and all the of it. mean , who do the rest of it. i mean, who do you think sources you think his sources are? >> god , right? somebody up there >> god, right? somebody up there . yes. you know, sources is always very easy to put down in always very easy to put down in a book because it means that you you're safe. you're playing safe. yes. there's some breaking news on this. >> you know that. yeah. go on, then. yes. something's happened in this book. >> in holland. yes they've >> it's in holland. yes they've had the publication had to pulp the publication there because it names whoever was royal that talked of was the royal that talked of archie's skin colour. right now , archie's skin colour. right now, i'm a bit confused because there's sort of talk was it a royal or was it somebody in the royal or was it somebody in the royal household or was it royals, plural ? royals, plural? >> because ahmed's been giving these interviews saying, well, i know who

anyway the point is, i tom bower on the show i had tom bower on the show yesterday, dickie, and we talkedcobie's sources and motivations and all the of it. mean , who do the rest of it. i mean, who do you think sources you think his sources are? >> god , right? somebody up there >> god, right? somebody up there . yes. you know, sources is always very easy to put down in always very easy to put down in a book because it means that you you're safe. you're playing safe. yes. there's some breaking news on this. >> you know that. yeah. go on, then. yes. something's happened in this book. >> in holland. yes they've >> it's in holland. yes they've had the publication had to pulp the publication there because it names whoever was royal that talked of was the royal that talked of archie's skin colour. right now , archie's skin colour. right now, i'm a bit confused because there's sort of talk was it a royal or was it somebody in the royal or was it somebody in the royal household or was it royals, plural ? royals, plural? >> because ahmed's been giving these interviews saying, well, i know who the

plus, i asked tom bower if rishi sunak has already conceded the next election . election. and would a labour government mean five years of chaos? join me for two hours of feisty debates . 9 two hours of feisty debates. 9 to 11 on well. >> the front of today's daily telegraph business page. big big headunes telegraph business page. big big headlines telling us that complaints about being de—banking are going up and up and up and people aren't just taking it, lying down anymore. they're complaining . they're they're complaining. they're complaining to the ombudsman. they're writing subject access requests to their bank. they're making a bit of a noise about it and a very, very good thing too, because i think what i've done is to help lift the lid on a very major national scandal. i say help to lift the lid because david sopher, founder and editor of tech round, which is an onune of tech round, which is an online magazine designed to help businesses deal with these problems , is you wrote a big problems, is you wrote a big piece in february this year before me about

plus, i asked tom bower if rishi sunak has already conceded the next election .e next election. and would a labour government mean five years of chaos? join me for two hours of feisty debates . 9 two hours of feisty debates. 9 to 11 on well. >> the front of today's daily telegraph business page. big big headunes telegraph business page. big big headlines telling us that complaints about being de—banking are going up and up and up and people aren't just taking it, lying down anymore. they're complaining . they're they're complaining. they're complaining to the ombudsman. they're writing subject access requests to their bank. they're making a bit of a noise about it and a very, very good thing too, because i think what i've done is to help lift the lid on a very major national scandal. i say help to lift the lid because david sopher, founder and editor of tech round, which is an onune of tech round, which is an online magazine designed to help businesses deal with these problems , is you wrote a big problems, is you wrote a big piece in february this year before me

plus i asked tom bower if rishi sunak has already conceded the next election . labour government mean five years of chaos ? join me for five years of chaos? join me for two hours of feisty debate. 9 to 11 on gb >> welcome back. i continue to identify as jacob rees—mogg and this is state of the nation. we've been discussing whether it's you to keep more we've been discussing whether it':your you to keep more we've been discussing whether it':your own you to keep more we've been discussing whether it':your own money. (eep more we've been discussing whether it':your own money. and more we've been discussing whether it':your own money. and we've of your own money. and we've been getting your views, harry says. need the autumn budget says. we need the autumn budget to shake things up, but nothing would happier to see the would make me happier to see the obr . oh, it obr proved wrong again. oh, it will and helen, this will be. and helen, this government better at government has to get better at investment. a clear investment. hs2 is a clear symbol got it so wrong symb

that's tom bower's of omid bower's version of events. omid scobie's version. on how close to that that 3:20 did you say? >> did that plane load of royals arrive? i.e. if harry hadn't allegedly held that plane up on the tarmac, might they have got there in time? >> i don't think we can say to be honest. so they were in the they were in the air when the queen died and their plane landed.i queen died and their plane landed. i think it was just after 3:30. prince harry, interestingly , in omid scobie's interestingly, in omid scobie's book, it alleges similar to what? omid scobie similar to what? omid scobie similar to what harry's memoir said, that harry learns of the queen's death via a bbc news notification . now what omid notification. now what omid scobie's extracts reveals or alleges is that there was a huge fight between prince harry's team and buckingham palace on that day because they knew prince harry was in the air on a chartered jet from luton to try to get to aberdeen. and they were trying to stop the palace from releasing statement from releasing the

interestingly he tom bower, in his book named the supposedly royal racist.ve now got three characters in the frame. i think the situation is that there was just very innocent conversation going on. you know, you ask what colour a child's hair might be and, you know, i know people in mixed marriages who've had such conversations. think was marriages who've had such coninnocent... think was marriages who've had such coninnocent. i think was marriages who've had such coninnocent. ithink< was marriages who've had such coninnocent. i think omid|s all innocent. i think omid scobie is a nasty, vengeful type. >> write strong stuff and thank you very, very much. as ever. you take care. that is ann widdecombe. there former conservative minister right now. coming by private coming up, arriving by private jet rubbing shoulders with other elites in an oil state with a abominable human rights record. that doesn't sound like a serious climate conference, does it? but that's cop 28, everybody. now shortly i'll be joined by the human rights lawyer david hague, who had an abs

but if you look at tom bower's biography, even about what happens on the day the queen died, he she allegesing to get on the flight, which had been chartered to take prince william and other members of the royal family aberdeen because family up to aberdeen because meghan to go up. meghan wasn't allowed to go up. and prince william and then prince william ordered the off without the plane to take off without harry they could get to harry so they could get to balmoral in time. omid scobie disputes that. >> okay, so very quickly, >> and okay, so very quickly, the crown, the first episodes have lot of people have dropped. a lot of people are getting a bit het a bit bit upset about the includes upset about the fact it includes the of diana. what's the latest? >> yeah, well, does show the >> yeah, well, it does show the death diana. have. i have death of diana. i have. i have watched it shows the car watched that. it shows the car driving speed the driving at speed into the tunnel. you can hear the sound of the crash, but you do not see the crash. think they've done the crash. i think they've do