i really do think well, but compared to before when we had to trust walter cronkite and tom brokaw and other white guys to tell us what the news is, but now we can see what the news is. if we choose to let people do that for us, it's our fault, but we have more options now and the tools are in our hands. >> we have to build the tools or trust twitter, facebook, and google to transmit what's actually happening. >> right. another question. >> hi. i was thinking when the both of you were talking about learning programming in school, and for what it's worth, i'm in my 20s and learned basic in 7th grade. i thought about this one level of extraction and thinking about school and just the way you go from year to year at a very industrial age sort of mechanism, and i was wondering if you were aware of different things like, i think you called it see, click, fix, things like that in the marketplace that are thinking about how to address education in a more digital way, the thinking being that hopefully if education evolves a level, maybe our political discourse will evolve a level as well. >> w