then finally with attorney tom bullock playing gatekeeper, they made a deal to at least meet face toore than that? maybe not. >> it was like, "listen, don't get me involved in this. this guy's dangerous. so until you get handcuffs on him, you can't involve me." >> reporter: but evans knew, even if he did arrest the guy, a mystery woman testifying about something an ex-boyfriend told her wouldn't be enough. >> i can imagine a prosecutor saying, well, i can't just put her on the stand, his attorney will come along and say, "she's full of it." >> yeah, and in this particular case it's, yeah. you know what? that in itself is not gonna do it, nor should it. we're still in a situation where this has to come from him. >> reporter: him, meaning shane ragland. evans told her they had to find a way to get shane to admit on tape what he did, otherwise what jury would buy such a ludicrous motive for murder? there was only one way, he told her, she'd have to wear a wire. >> she wasn't very happy with that obviously. >> i should think not. >> yeah. she asked me if i could spell anonymous. >> repor

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