there was a nieman fellow up there named tom karsell, who came from hodding carter's paper in greenville, mississippi. and you have to understand, in the south in those days, there were a number of papers which became, in effect, like an oasis. and there was only a handful. we now should not glorify american journalism and southern journalism by thinking of all these wonderful, feisty independent newspapers. most of them operated along the line of the prevailing values. tom was a nieman, as john was later, and one day he hired me. he was going to be the new editor of a new liberal paper in jackson, mississippi, the state times. so i graduated. i wanted to do an apprenticeship. and i thought if you were going to do an apprenticeship, why not do it in the south and why not in mississippi, which was the most contested, most recalcitrant state? and i got down there, and he was not the editor of the new liberal state times. he was the assistant to the editor, to the famously racist fred sullens, editor of the famously, viciously racist jackson daily news. so i had come 1,100, 1,200 miles and