we have so much to talk about with oklahoma senator tom coburn. nice to have you on the program. >> good morning. >> let's begin with the feud between congressman john lewis and the president-elect. we know the is will of o democrats not going to the inauguration is up to 25. do you support the way the president-elect responded to congressman lewis saying he is not a legitimate president? should the president-elect have responded in this way, saying this is a man of all talk, no action? >> well, i think donald trump is a user of twitter to accomplish his means. i certainly wouldn't have responded that way, but that doesn't mean he won't. we've seen this pattern through his entire campaign to where he controls the talking points by using twitter to counter somebody else's assertion. i think it's unfortunate that congressman lewis said that he's not legitimate because there's no basis in fact for that. but the point is, at some point in time the president is going to have to turn to become more presidential. that's not presidential. >> it's not pres

. >> tom coburn says it's 400 billion in waste and redundancy. this would be waste i see. d.c. is blind to it, and d.c. is a boom town. in the united states government we are paying government union workers to work from their couches at home on government duties. that's the problem. david: be bill, on the other hand he wh you look at $20 trillion debt it's like chipping away with an iceberg with a little tool. that's a lot of money we have to pay off. >> i think this is a frivolous gesture that distracts us from what john is talking about. how about eliminate the department of education and return that power and that money to the states. that's a good place to start and i've got more departments to start with. david: and the good place to start, appointing john tamney to cut these details. steve, the next step. that's a good first step. what does he do after that step to show that he's serious about shrinking government? >> two things, the budgets of the departments aren't getting the bloat up. most importantly, we've been discussing this morning and that is reducing the size a

senator tom coburn talks about his career, politics and his reasons for early retirement.ptroller general david walker discusses the mission and competence of the general category office. and david bossi, president of citizens united and citizens united productions talks about his career in activism. you can watch these anytime or search our entire deal library at c-span.org. >> c-span's "washington journal," life every day with news and policy issues that affect you. whatg up, discussing president trump is expected to do his first day and week in the white house, and which executive orders he could reverse. aboutwe will talk president trump's possible actions on immigration. todd harrison will join us to discuss what approach president trump might take when it comes to the defense department budget. be sure to watch "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern monday morning. join the discussion. ministerbritish prime theresa may takes questions from members of the house of commons. after that, highlights from friday's presidential inauguration ceremony. at 11:00, anot

it's a ridiculous assertion in the federal government we all know gangsta tom coburn and others thate is enormous waste so let's see some of that. charles: listen if anyone can do it will be donald trump and if anyone has the will to do it will be donald trump so i think this is our one and only chance to see it happen. >> of course in those protections you are talking about for federal workers are protected if you're bad at their jobs and the reason why do you think they're many federal workers out there who want to see their own agency trimmed to a level that sufficient. the worker who cares at all about the chances are your brain keep your job because you care about the service your agencies providing the people but they're all sorts of people in these agencies who are able to advance or exist because of seniority. an agency will basically spend spend all that money just so it gets the same amount of money next year and also to think the private companies never do. charles: the word comes out to an ability and sequestration taught us a lot and i hope there's a political willpower

junior senator won the senate seat held by senator tom coburn back in 2014. senators, first of all, any stories or reflections or interactions you can share with us from your day with the new president? >> oh, it was an amazing day to watch the transition of power. i've talked about it all day long today. it's just as overwhelming when you're watching it straight up noon, the swearing in of a new president and understanding at the white house every desk is changing right now. every office is changing. every embassy around the world is changing. the pictures on the walls as they entire united states government makes a shift just like that at noon. so it's a remarkable and very humbling experience to watch uch close. >> what did you make with the tone, tenor, and content of the president's speech? >> i thought it was very trump-like. it sounded a lot like him, didn't sound like any other speech i've heard for any inauguration or read about any inauguration. the the first half of it was basically hey, there's a new sheriff in town, and the people of the united s

republicans are looking for ideas because the speaker ryan came up with something last year he unveiled, tom coburnorrin hatch, richard and the republican senators had a plan a few years ago. ideas have been out there, some provisions that are popular about obamacare cover pre-existing conditions, keeping young people on family insurance until age 25 or 26, these were ideas discussed by republicans themselves eight or nine years ago in it was when rip president obama was running for office so it is about coalescing around the right type of package to get the broad coalition to come together. >> jenna: see what they can do. i will ask a question about branding, but we all know "make america great again." her hearing from the democrats their own saying, i want to play that now. >> the republican plan to cut healthcare would not make america great again. it would "make america sick again." >> "make america sick again," is that what the republicans want to do? i certainly hope not. >> jenna: hashtag, is anyone going for the hashtag? they are repeating it. they've come up with their brand. >> so predict

very involved in trying to get that whole thing started between brokering with them, trying to get tom coburn on board. what's interesting is when appeal started to really go south, senator schumer more or less stepped out of the process and started forecasting what would be the next big fight, which he thought at the time was more winnable fight which was the immigration fight. >> host: we will get to that. let me ask you about the house leadership possibilities for schumer, senator schumer. where was it in terms of leadership in the house? was or evea path for him to be a leader? >> guest: he was part of this, this sort of brat pack of young up-and-coming people acting. he was living in a house that was owned by george miller, just a couple blocks from the house office buildings. dick durbin lived there. leon panetta lived there until he went into the clinton administration. they were these young turks who are trying to challenge the leadership at the time, first with speaker foley and then speak or write. they really wanted to push the envelope. what happened was 1994, the midterm losses,

there is also tom coburn, who spoke with us about his career and his desire to see more transparencyess wasteful spending in government. and from 2005, our conversation with then u.s. comptroller general david walker on the role of the government accountability office. you can find those interviews online at c-span.org. on c-span,here "washington journal" is next. then, a look back at past inaugural addresses. and later this afternoon, a life o'connor of the larry radio show. for the next three hours, we will take a look at president obama's legacy. include jessests holland, sophia nelson, host: it is they washington journal, january 16, 2017. that is the memorial for the late dr. martin luther king. today celebrates his birthday and his work as a civil rights leader. with that in mind, we are hosting a series of programs leading up to inauguration day this friday. as part of that, we want to take a look at president obama's legacy when it comes to race relations. we will examine a topic with guests later. ask about raceto relations and if you think they have improve

tom coburn said that alvin is what america is all about and i think that we bow a debt of gratitude to work on the truth of this band it is the truth that the country does not live up to the truth of justice. you are guiding the conscience. and i want to turn this over for questions and tell everyone that alvin will be a part of the work on the reauthorization of the emmett till bill, creating a cold case section in the civil rights department and pursuing justice in these cases. [applause] >> i will translate that. send checks. >> who want to open this up to you, the audience. we have this microphone up front, if you would like to come up front. >> i just want to know how that changed your life. >> that is a good one and it became so personal and, hopefully, had she had done that, she would have been similar to mylan. she went on to become a schoolteacher and the emmett till players and she turned a negative to a positive and you live with that pain forever, but you can turn it into a positive, to some degree. she was determined her son not die in vain. that is true. the emmett till c

there is also tom coburn, who spoke with us about his career and his desire to see more transparencyess wasteful spending and government. and from 2005, our conversation with then u.s. comptroller general david walker on the role of the government accountability office. you can find those interviews online at c-span.org. announcer: c-span's "washington tv,"merican history narrated by james earl jones. it documents the progress of by talking toans several newly-elected black public officials. socialng an impact on justice. voting,egislature, the is democratic process optimisma new sense of and it is also bringing economic parity. announcer: for a complete schedule, go to c-span.org. coming up next, prime minister's questions. after that, secretary of state john kerry marks the completion museum on u.s. diplomacy. later, the senate intelligence committee holds a hearing for representative mike pompeo who has been tapped by president-elect trump two had the cia. -- to head the cia. >> prime minister theresa may defended the government handling of the transition. the senate also responde

there is also tom coburn, who spoke with us about his career and his desire to see more transparency and less wasteful spending and government. and from 2005, our conversation with then u.s. comptroller general david walker on the role of the government accountability office. you can find those interviews online at c-span.org. announcer: c-span's "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. monday morning, a look at the influence is an obama has had on race relations in the u.s. with associated press race and ethnicity reporter jesse hollins , the author of "the invisibles, the untold story of african-american slaves in the white house." "eo sophia nelson, author of pluribus unum one." and georgetown university law ,rofessor, author of "loving interracial intimacy in america and the threat to white supremacy go journal,"washington live at 7 a.m. eastern monday morning. announcer: coming up next, prime minister's questions at the british house of commons. then a conversation with incoming trump administration staffers kellyanne conway and john spic

tom coburn, who we had on this stage a year and a half ago with alvin said on the senate floor aboutalvin, he is what about america -- what america is all about. i think that we bow a debt of gratitude to work on the truth . we owe alvin a debt of gratitude continuing to work on the truth on what this country sometimes does not live up to and should live up to that truth about justice. you are guiding the conscience. [applause] >> and i want to turn this over to questions for devery. i do want to tell everyone that alvin and devery is involved in this too, he continues to work as he said in his introduction on reauthorization of the emmett till bill which creates the cold case section in the civil rights department and justice department and continues to pursue the truth and when possible justice in all of these cases. we can see public libraries supporting alvin in that financially and personally. [applause] >> i will translate that. send checks. [laughter] >> so now, if you would like to ask questions of devery and alvin, and moores here. youuld like to open up to the audience. ,we

before the election, burr of courses chairman, not a chairman but a long time collaborator with tom coburn who always wrote the intellectually defensible way to think about this from the right on the hill. coburn retired sober took out the crucible. hatch is the chairman of finance. upton is the chairman of finance. very important. that bill includes all medicare payment stuff. and, of course, as congressman burr just laid out, macro pass with just about the largest bipartisan majority since i don't know, world war ii. it was pretty overwhelming. and so that is baked into the system and that's been very, very good, very, very good start. the i want to make is this public-private cooperation that has been waxing and waning and going on is a two-way street, and you think you can see a lot of good features that are coming out of that. the first and one of the things i like best about the way innovation center did its business pursuant to the aca was emphasizing multi-payer payment initiatives. the reason multi-payer payment initiatives matter is basically to try to get the incentives and repo

tom coburn the civics is there.owers on twitter who brought this to my kitchen, here is the white house website over 24 hours. something is missing in the new interpretation of the trump white house. i believe you and i learned in civics, the judicial ranch matters? >> you could probably make the case that donald trump does that like the judicial branch. i suspect this gets to the rushed and hurried nature of what they've been traded or the white house against your point about tillerson and sessions not being in office. a lot of tick-tocks and very's newspapers about how this order came about. the immigration order. it doesn't it was not vetted are 1 -- or run through your the department of homeland security secretary mr. kelly until it was being signed. not autocracy, but incompetence or a rush to get things out may have caused this problem. francine: in terms of the executive order, is the gop firmly behind the president on this? speaking outt forcefully, but i can say behind the scenes, there is concern for what

conservative congressmen eric cantor, kevin mccarthy, paul ryan, senate power brokers jim demint, jon kyl, tom coburn, and event organizer frank luntz. >> the room was filled. it was a who's who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen, or in the majority, who now wondered out loud whether they were in the permanent minority. >> the 44th president of these united states... >> many of them had attended obama's inauguration. they had seen that breathtaking spectacle of a million-and-a- half people on the mall, and it felt like a wholesale repudiation of the republican party. >> they walked into that dining room as depressed as i've seen any elected members of congress. they lost every senate seat they could lose. they lost all these house seats. the numbers were so great that they thought that they weren't coming back again not for an election or two, but maybe a generation or two. >> narrator: they came and went, but as the night wore on, those who stayed began to talk about the future. >> three hours, some of the brightest minds in the republican party debated how to be relevan

republicans tom coburn and rand paul and democrat joe manchin. a man who could be senator of my state any time, willie! >> think about that. senator karins! >> forecast like your weather! >> wrong. >> you never know, right? you never know. >>> let's talk about the big weather stories out on there. remember the drought we talked about three to four years in california? we are ending that in central california. 2 to 3 feet of snow in the mountains and another 2 to 3 feet coming and any travel trouble from san francisco south wards. 2 to 4 feet expected in addition to what we have had in the mountains. this is storm one of three. by the time we are done with this we could see some areas up to 10 to 12 feet of snow. we are telg with a little bit of wet weather and snow in area of maine and cleared out new england after a rainy day yesterday and cold air moves in along with the lake-effect snow machine and areas near syracuse and water town, two feet of snow. fog early today and enjoy the warm on the east coast. about as warm we are going to be the ne

senator tom coburn talks about his career, politics and his reasons for early retirement. comptroller general david walker discusses the mission and competence of the general accountability office. and david bossie, president of citizens united and citizens united productions talks about his career in activism. you can watch these anytime or search our entire deal library at c-span.org. c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up monday morning, white house bureau chief philip rucker will discuss what president trump is expected to do his first day in week in the white obama specifically which executive orders he could reverse. then, randy cap's from the migration policy institute will talk about president trump's possible actions on immigration. todd harrison from the center for strategic and international studies will join us to discuss what approach president trump might take when it comes to the defense department budget. watch washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern monday morning. join the discussion. >> on

eliminating unnecessary spending and catching government weavment my friend and former colleague tom coburn of oklahoma created an annual report cataloging some of the most egregious ways washington waists our tax dollars. it's called "wastebook." and today i'm releasing the latest installment, which profiles 50 new examples of questionable expenditures. this year's edition is titled "waste book: porkemon-go." "wastebook" provides a list of questionable expenditures lurking throughout the budget that cost taxpayers more understand that $5 billion. but instead of piicachu, we're looking out for porke-chu. it's been derided as a space pork not because it is launching an elite unit of astronauts into the big trough in the sky. it's because congress used earmarks to force the department of defense to build the facility over the objections of the military, as part of an illegal kickback scheme, a mid-level d.o.d. employee who was sentenced to prison for masterminding the plot confessed that building the launch facility -- quote -- "doesn't make sense." he says that the pentagon -- quote -- "just