joining us now is representative tom cole from oklahoma.d to have you on the program, sir. >> good to be with you. >> actual not doesn't sound like there's much room for a compromise. doesn't that sound a little counterproductive at this point? >> it's the right answer. you need to communicate to your negotiating partner what the political reality is. the president got a lot of revenue 45 days ago. there were no spending cuts that accompanied that. look, i voted for it. i helped the president move that through. so i'm not somebody who's unwilling to sit down and deal with him. because we had no spending cuts then, you're not getting tax increases now. but sit down, redistribute the cuts. we know they need to be a lot more nondiscretionary. we need a deal but it's not going to involve revenue if. >> you as well as others have said the president has not come up with an alternative to why the sequester would happen. gene sperling was on the program and he basically said there have been spending cuts and changes to the entitlements put in place

>> -- congressman tom cole. aham. >> a sane republican. >> anyway, tom, let's talk about a couple things. first of all, sequestration. this thing looks like it's not going to be avoided. i mean, the president's talking about more tax increases. you get a feeling -- i mean, he hasn't talked about any specific cuts. it's a very blunt, crude instrument, but it's all we have right now, isn't it? >> it absolutely is, and it is going to happen. we're more than happy to negotiate with the president about how you redistribute the cuts. you know, a lot less discretionary, more nondiscretionary, different categories. that makes sense. and we'll probably do that within the month in the continuing resolution ourselves if the president doesn't come to the table. but the idea that there's going to be any more revenue here, that's not going to occur. these cuts are in law. they're going to happen. we'd like to work and redistribute them, but again, they're going to take place. and they need to take place. we're running trillion

. >> joining me now is oklahoma republican congressman tom cole. it is good to have you with me now. let's talk about this because it -- as weigh know, all politics is local. as we look at the state of oklahoma, let's show everybody what the sequester impact would mean. 1490 fewer children receiving vaccines. 300 domestic violence victims served. as we look at the impact in other states, california, over 15,000 kids not getting vaccines. florida, over 6,000 losing college financial aid. new york, 42 million cut from education. et cetera, et cetera. this goes on around the country. earlier this month you said that the sequester was inevitable. now as we are in the sequester week itself do you feel the same way? >> i do. i think that it virtually possible to redistribute the cuts. republicans did that twice last year. certainly willing to sit down with the president and renegotiate. $85 billion out of the $3.5 trillion budget. we certainly can minimize any discomfort if the president is willing to do that. cuts themselves are going to occur. they are

cuts are going to occur. >> congressman tom cole of oklahoma.ou for making time for me this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i just want to pass along, we wait on the president's remarks at the national governor's association expected to begin any minimum now from the white house, crowd there applauding as first lady wrapped up her remarks. want to say good morning to our monday morning political power panel. bruce marcus for "the washington post." james peterson and professor. and chip saltzman. if we get the president coming up i will cut way so we can go to those remarks. forgive me if i become abrupt. >> no problem. >> in any fashion. ruth, let's start with you. "the washington post" headline is out saying the governors expressed frustration with washington gridlock over the sequestration. obviously right now we all know what this means to the state level as i just went over that with congressman cole. do you think they are going to be able to impart properly the frustration, especially given they have a little more liberal power i

tom cole on "this week" said it is unlikely they will agree on a weapon ban. >> there will be more discussions on mental-health and potentially some of the background checks. in national registry will not make it. question gun-control will undoubtedly be addressed by barack obama in his state of the union address which you can watch here on abc 7. >> parts of the echostar coming back to life. new york and boston -- parts of the east coast are coming back to life. amtrak is running on a limited schedule between new york and boston. people are digging out from nearly 3 feet of snow. >> the biggest problem is once we get up and down the alley that there is nowhere to go. >> a state of emergency in connecticut has some of the largest amounts of snow fall, 40 inches. many roadways are trying to get ready for the start of the word wk week. >> we did get off to a chilly start today by this at least made us feel better. >> not so bad out there. somewhat more sunshine than i had originally thought. the clouds are rolling in and they will eventually produce some ran across the mid- atlantic. temperature

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tom cole has an r in front of the state aabbreviation for oklahoma. he is a republican.tunately, have to leave it there, but thank you -- i know. i'm sorry, jon. >> i had a point. next time. >> there's always next time. thank you to ari, jake, lee, and jonathan. that's all for now. see you back here tomorrow noon eastern, country a.m. pacific p. until then, can you find us at facebook.com/now with alex, andrea mitchell reports is coming up next. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. your soups are so awesomely delicious my husband and i can't stop eating 'em! what's...that... on your head? can curlers! tomato basil, potato with bacon... we've got a lot of empty cans. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. i'm maria, and i have diabetic nerve pain. i felt like my feet were going to sleep. it was like pins and needles sticking in your toes and in your feet. it progressed from there to burning like i was walking on hot coals. at that point, i knew i had to do something. when i went to see my doctor, she chose lyrica. once i started taking the lyrica, the pain s

joining me republican congressman tom cole of oklahoma. good to have you back on the program.chris, great to be with you. >> a little earlier in the hour i talked to congresswoman and dnc chair debbie wassermann schultz about this. here's what she said. >> leverage. they consider a looming government shutdown three weeks later leverage so they can get the severe, unacceptable spending cuts that they want and protect the tax breaks they've been trying to protect for the wealthiest americans. >> is that what's going on here, congressman? >> of course not. we're finally trying to get serious about actually dealing with trillion dollar budget deficits. we've acted twice in may and december to try and redistribute the cuts away from a lot of the affected areas particularly the military and first responders. the senate never picked those bills up. the president has never actually put a proposal on the table. he's been engaged in a theatrical political style campaign, finally calls the speaker and the republican leaders in the senate yesterday, first time he talked to either of them

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we will keep taking your phone calls while we wait for congress and tom cole to join us. hostcaller: team from chicago -- being from chicago and seeking the parents there was good. -- seeing the parents there was good. there was a lot of talk about obama coming to the funeral or chicago to address the issue of violence in the city being that it is his hometown. there have been about 560 murders here since the last year. 60 this year already. he is coming on friday. he had to go through a lot of flack. radio stations have called him out on it. it is good to see that when you raise your voice, it affects things. her parents were there. he addressed the situation. that was good. host: the president is traveling to chicago to talk about gun violence. he will travel to north carolina to talk about the ideas on manufacturing last night and the state of the union address. look for our coverage at www.c- span.org. tom cole from oklahoma joins us. he sits on the budget committee. he is an appropriator. let us begin with what the president said about the automatic spending cuts tha

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congressman tom cole of oklahoma says we just had additional revenue for the federal government, so i't see any way in the world the sequester won't happen. not to be outdone, tom rooney of florida says it seems that a large portion of our conference is resigned to the fact that sequestration is okay. what? our conference is resigned to the fact that sequestration is okay? it's not. it's dangerous. it's a huge mistake. a threat to our liberty. a threat to our liberty? not every republican is willing to show mr. rooney's candor. but if and when the sequester does happen, remember, it's all the president's fault. >> many of your colleagues are saying okay. then there's no deal. let those cut gos through. >> right. sequester is here. it's up to the president to come forward with serious cantor, the president has presented a serious plan. not the one you want, but it's the only one until you party decides whether it's for or against the sequester. >> i believe that they should at least pass a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effec

i think that's actually the preferred position, according to tom cole from oklahoma.ter go from something as the worst in the word to something that republicans would prefer to see happen? >> well, the thing about the sequester, both parties voted for. so everyone agreed to it. and it's a policy that everyone got behind. but i think republicans have changed their tune about sequester. republicans have been reputationwise, more hawks about it. the republicans have changed their tune a little bit. they feel like it's part of the fiscal cliff deal. they did not get the spending cuts that they want. did they not get chicaany chang the federal health programs. they say, well, if this is the way to get spending cut and tackle the deficit immediately, we're willing to and see what is happening. >> thank you, nancy. >>> that's a wrap at this hour. of "weekends with alex witt." join me for a two-hour edition of the show at noon eastern. but straight ahead, more political talk with "up with chris hayes." among his special guests, gloria steinem and marlo thomas. stay with us. o

tom cole says fiscal questions trump defense. and when it comes to compromise, lindsey graham says he's willing to raise revenue. but boehner already slammed that door shut. the revenue debate is now closed, he says. republicans can't get their stories straight. they're a joke. it would be laughable if it weren't hundreds of thousands of jobs on the line. today president obama went to a shipyard in virginia, the state's largest industrial employer, to point out how crippling these budget cuts would be to our military, our safety net, and our economy. >> all told, the sequester could cost tens of thousands of jobs right here in virginia. but it doesn't just stop there. if the sequester goes into effect, more than 2,000 college students would lose their financial aid. early education like head start and early start would be eliminated for nearly a thousand children and around 18,000 fewer virginians will get the skills and training they need to find a job. >> these cuts are a disaster for virginia and they're a disaster for every s

i'm curious of your own repo reporting, because i get the sense if you read between the lines of tom colelet the sequester happen, because they know in three weeks, they can fix it. and it is a phony like, of course, we are brave and let it happen, but because in three weeks the government runs out of money, and we can fix it at the end of march. >> yes, in march, we will talk about the $12 billion per month cut. not talking about the full $1.2 trillion over ten years, and this is a very small fraction of the overall cuts. >> so easy to say yes to now, because you have time to fix it. >> right. and once the members back home start to hear from the folks who have their job, and who are going to be whose jobs will be hit because exquisiters are taking effect and people are realizing the impact, then comes march and they have a chance. >> trivia time. we asked -- what is the second oldest continuous oy led sporting competition in the united states? the answer, you guys nailed this the westminster kennel club dog show. apparently it's tonight, i'm told. e-mail us. we'll be right back. >> let

republican congressman tom cole says fiscal questions trump defense. i can totally see how they are going to win the message war on this thing, right? they just have to pick one of their seven messages on it before deciding to award the points here. how this particular crisis is fought over to some people i'm sure is politically fascinating. to most of the country, though, it is unfascinating. it is not fascinating at all. it seems like the inarguably important and interesting thing here is that we keep doing this. this is how we govern now. between president obama and the republican-led house of representatives, this is how the united states government works now. we're not lurching from crisis to crisis because crises keep arising naturally in the world and we have to respond to them, we're lurching from crisis to crisis to crisis to crisis because we keep creating new crises on purpose to lurch toward. this is a plan. the relationship between the president and congress has been purposefully structured now so they accomplish the basic questions of gov

and to say the president isn't leading is a bit strange and i want you to respond of a quote of tom coleoklahoma in the new "new yorker" and a piece about eric cantor saying it's a little like the dysfunctional family speaking about the gop where everybody knows that old joe is an alcoholic and somebody needs to say. we need to get joe some help. come on. he's ruined too many christmas parties and i think joe is the far right, the tea party group. s.e. said something similar to this. will you be critical of old uncle joe? >> i think there's plenty of obstruction and dysfunction to go around. the point i'm trying to make is that republicans, conservatives, those that believe in getting at the debt and deficit painted as blind defenders of the rich and the president is shrewd of doing that. unwilling to close loopholes and my argument call his bluff. close some loopholes and some corporate loopholes for the rich and reduce the payroll tax rate hitting the middle class. gas is more expensive. wages going down. the payroll cut hit and ask for some actual tax reform across the board to simpli

i think that's actually the preferred position said republican representative tom cole of oklahoma. jonathan, how did the sequester go from being the worst thing in the entire world to something that republicans now would prefer to see happen? >> you know, i wish i had the answer to that question, but congressman cole is not alone. he's not all by himself in that view. republican member of congress told me yesterday that he didn't think that the sequester was a big deal. so you have this stick that professor peterson talked about and that we knew about in 2011 that was supportsed to force and cajole congress into doing the right thing. >> jonathan, i'm going to have to interrupt you because the president is now speaking at the armed forces farewell tribute honoring defense secretary leon panetta. >> a young married couple in italy packed up what few belongings that they had and boarded a boat for a new world. they passed under the statute of liberty and went through the lines of ellis island. carmelo and carmelina panetta had no money and spoke little english, but they had a dream o

i think somebody watched as tom cole, a republican out of oklahoma, he's with the chickasaw nation, he'sent that makes it easier for if nonnative americans feel like they're 23409 getting a fair trial on tribal lands, they can appeal to federal courts. the problem with that, we start where we begin with the backlog of cases in federal courts and whether or not they will be inclined to take some of these cases. but i do think that the republicans' argument is, a, they feel like this is something that states should be able to take up so that's why you see some resistance, and i think in some ways if you look over the last three or four years, i'm not even sure this is going to pass because you have had this stonewalling and resistance on the part of republicans to get this passed. >> so, goldie, it's all about states' rights. >> when you say states' rights, i hear nullification. >> right. >> what it means is they don't want the federal government involved in this because they want the states to not do anything. and so i think that's the real issue here. what ought to happen if i live in ge

here is congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he was asked earlier today is there any chance that republicans would put new revenue on the table. >> no, there is not. the president got revenue six weeks ago with no spending cuts whatsoever. this time it's spending cuts with no revenue. down the road we'll have another negotiation over the budget and the continuing resolution. eventually the debt ceiling again. but in this case, i don't think there is any room for revenue at all. >> this is what you do when there is a mistake in a game. you call time-out. i am sick and tired of hearing the republicans saying that the president got new revenue. that was the expiration of the bush tax cuts. everybody with a brain knows that. that's not new revenue. that doesn't take us beyond the rates that we used to have. but this is the republican strategy. you have to negotiate with them on their terms or you're not going to save jobs in america. john boehner isn't even concerned about the immediate loss of jobs from the sequester. >> do you hav

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tom cole says to the "new york times", fiscal questions trump defense in a way they never would have after 9/11, but the war in iraq is over. troops are coming home from afghanistan, and we want to secure the cuts. i mean -- >> reality is setting in, and all of the neocons and defense hawks who have protected that nest egg for low these many years found that, you know, basically the egg is cracked. what was in it has now gone out of the nest, and have you to clean up, and this is where you get into those programs that aren't going to deal with the day to day protection of our shores and our relationship with our foreign friends and even our enemies. the waste that goes on in the pentagon, those types of things are now having a glaring light put on them, and i think cole and others are saying this is an opportunity to clean some of that up. >> i can't believe we have a democratic president who is opening drone bases in north africa and, you know, extra judicial assassination american citizens. that's a democrat. the republicans are, like, slash the defense budget. it's bloated. >> i t

republican strategist nicolle, stephanie cutter, both white house veterans and from the congress tom colend keith ellison, democrat of minnesota. let's get right to you, jon karl, you've been digging into the white house. what are their plans for the state of the union? >> the white house, the president wants to see this, the headline coming out of the speech as it was about jobs and the economy. that's going to be the focus here. they're a little stung by some of the criticism of the inaugural. for not focusing on jobs. >> of course. >> they would argue it's not fair but that's -- so this is going to have new initiatives on infrastructure, on education, on clean energy, and it's going to be all about the middle class expanding the middle class and a big warning on this, the automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go in effect on march 1st. >> i do want to talk about that. across-the-board spending cuts. how about the tone, one of the things we've seen from the president since his re-election since know fairly confrontational across the board. >> i don't expect to see much of a chan

tom cole was on "washington journal" last week and you can watch the interview online at c- span.org.ald in tennessee, hi. caller: good morning. we keep talking about minimum wage. we do not say anything about people on social security. people on social security have been killed in the last 3-4 years on insurance, gas, groceries, electricity, and the health insurance going up and up. we got a $12 raise. there is a lot of people out 0's and their middle 7' who were depending on social security to live. guest: we can talk about that for hours and hours and hours. a lot of seniors do not have the savings they thought they would have. a lot of older workers have been forced back into the workplace. there is concerned about the solvency of social security in the long run. it is not unlike the that you will see it congress reduced social security benefits, perhaps with the cost of living adjustment and perhaps with some other mechanism in the deficit deals and the sequestration deals we're expecting to see coming. host: we have a tweet. host: jeff from florida. caller: my point was, i feel

i believe there is a strong leadership that we have with tom cole and congressman darrell issa. the list goes on of folks who support us. but there leadership will stand firm on this issue. i believe if we go to a vote on this issue in the house, we will win. [applause] >> just in case on the program, sticking with the role of exercise in our summer nights, how do you feel the effectiveness of tribal government health care compares with the ihs direct government care? >> let me just say that it is obvious that self-determination works. we talk about self-governance and the ability of tribes to contract or operate their own health care programs. the success of that cannot be disputed. we have over 330 tribes that are self-governing. they operate their own health care facilities, or at least parts of those facilities and programs. i can give you an example of how it works. prior to 1994, the chickasaw nation had an ihs hospice. all of our care was the direct service types. it was directly provided by the indian health services. quite frankly, it was unacceptable. now, it doesn't m

like to ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a statement by our friend and colleague, tom cole, member of congress. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. moore: he says he does not support the house substitute to vawa because it does not adequately recognize sovereignty or give them the tools they need to combat violence against women, unquote. i yield back to the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields. mr. conyers: i thank the gentlelady. members of the house, i was here in 1994 when the violence against women act was introduced to provide critical lifesaving assistance for women, children, and men. this law's been the centerpiece of our government's commitment to combating domestic violence, dating violence, stalking, sexual assault, and the results have been striking. in the nearly two decades since the landmark legislation was passed, the rate of intimate partner violence against women has dropped by nearly 2/3. on two occasions since its enactment, the members of both bodies have worked on a bipartisan basis to extend the violence against women

the cole street clinic is a youth clinic in the heart of the haight ashbury and they target youth. tomes care of many of the central city residents and they have great expertise in providing services for many of the homeless. potrero hill and southeast health centers are health centers in those particular communities that are family health centers, so they provide health care to patients across the age span. . >> many of our clients are working poor. they pay their taxes. they may run into a rough patch now and then and what we're able to provide is a bridge towards getting them back on their feet. the center averages about 14,000 visits a year in the health clinic alone. one of the areas that we specialize in is family medicine, but the additional focus of that is is to provide care to women and children. women find out they're pregnant, we talk to them about the importance of getting good prenatal care which takes many visits. we initially will see them for their full physical to determine their base line health, and then enroll them in prenatal care which occurs over the next 9 mont