tom coleman, thank you so much for talking with us.resident says fraud has been committed and the american people deserve to know what happened, and he's pursuing multiple lawsuits. he's within his rights to do that, isn't he? >> yes, he is. you have a close call in some of these states, and this is a very close election in some states. gradually joe biden has extended his lead in most of the questionable states that are still out. but, yes, the candidate has a right to do that within certain limitations. the problem is the president has filed seven lawsuits that i personally know of and all of them have been tossed by the courts. they are absolutely baseless and without foundation. >> woodruff: so when you hear, as we've just a few moments ago heard congressman jim jordan of ohio talking about things that he says went wrong or should be looked into in pennsylvania, he said some counties allow voters to cure their ballots, some didn't. some counties allow pre-canvassing of ballots, some didn't. i mean, are those the kinds of things tha

who was the dean of the star republicans never took him seriously as the guy and tom coleman's dream was somehow beating lafollette so that joe mccarthy call to do it is something that he didn't except that he watched mccarthy father can activist that he was so determined to him and he was the guy he had to get behind the desk behind i think he is getting older and been an opportunist long enough sure she wanted another return and to fight dirty like he had to do to music i like joe mccarthy he raise legitimate issues like whether that had been captured by the public and establishment and he still have the business in wisconsin and then also fought dirty so that he had a home in virginia and was a mansion and that was all it considered home, not wisconsin and anybody shouldn't have had to show that have deep roots in the state of wisconsin, was something his family he had given up as much better time that he came back and started to campaign hard it was essentially over and one by our hustling his opponent. >> it will is very close, a very close election and unlike the election for m

tom coleman street and i'm convinced this captain of the night with some out beating him. he thought gemma cardi b's vehicle is something he didn't accept until he watched mccarthy and he watched mccarthy out and hustle all of the republican activist and especially young republicans in a way that finally coleman became convinced that this was the guy who was a determine to win that he was a guy he ought to get behind. the way i think that joe mccarthy beat la follette was partly what you are suggesting, that la follette beat himself. it was almost like he was surrendering. i think he was getting older. he had been in office long enough. his health was a great. i'm not convinced he was sure he really wanted another term, or at least not wanted enough to fight hard and to fight dirty like is going have to do to beat a guy like joe mccarthy. mccarthy raise legitimate issues in the campaign like whether la follette had been captured by the republican establishment, whether he still had the kind of rootedness in wisconsin that voters in any state want to see when they are elect

tom coleman's dream come i'm sure it kept them up at night was somehow beating him. that joe mccarthy of the his vehicle for doing it is something he did except until he watched mccarthy. any watch mccarthy go out and hustle all of the republican activists. especially young republicans in a way that finally coleman became convinced this was the guy who was so determined to win that he was the guy he got get behind. the way i think that joe mccarthy beat him was partly what you were suggesting. that he beat himself. he really, it was almost like he was surrendering. i think he was getting older. he had been in office long enough, his health is not great. and i'm sure he is not convinced he wanted another term. or at least not wanted it enough to fight hard and to fight dirty like he was going to have to do to beat a guy like joe mccarthy. so mccarthy had legitimate issues in the campaign. whether he'd been captured by the republican establishment had the kind of rootedness in wisconsin that voters in any state want to see when they are electing somebody. he also fough

the through line for all of mccarthy's campaign and his opponents seldom took him seriously and tom coleman who was the dean of the stalwart republic is in the state never took him fiercely as the guy to carry the cudgel against lafollette and tom coleman stream and i'm convinced it's kept him up at night was somehow beating lafollette and joe mccarthy would be is the vehicle for doing and if it's something he did not accept and he watched mccarthy and watched mccarthy go out and hustle the all of the publican activists, especially young republicans in a way that finally called him to be convinced that this was a guy so determined to win that he was a guy you got to get behind. the way i think that joe mccarthy beat laval it was partly what you were suggesting that look follett beat himself. it was almost like he was surrendering. i think he was getting older and have been in office long enough and his health was a great and i'm not convinced that he was sure he really wanted another term or lease not wanted enough to fight hard and to fight dirty like he was going to have to do to beat a g