and what i used to spend in a month on groceries now gets me two weeks. >> joining me now, tom colicchioght. >> thank you, alex. >> tom, i want to begin by quoting something you told "time magazine." you said hunger needs to become a voting issue just like the second amendment is or the deficit is. it is time to label people who are not on board with fixing this as pro-hunger. and i wonder, given the conversation in washington today, the snap program and farm bill, do you think we are closer to that goal? >> well, you know, i hope we're getting closer. i hope this current farm bill sort of enlightens people to realize they need to start voting around food and food issues. the hunger advocates are just thrilled that this farm bill didn't pass. it was literally going to take food out of the mouth of children, people with disabilities, working families. seniors. it was just really devastating. but ironically, it didn't pass because there were those on the right that didn't think it went far enough. and so it didn't pass for some of the wrong reasons, but it was a devastating farm bill. and