why did you sack tom crohn? >> we didn't sack tom crohn. what happened with tom crohn was when we made the very regressable decision to close the "news of the world" after 168 years, tom crohn has p predominantly been the news of the world lawyer. he predominantly spent most of his time, in fact pretty much 99% of his time on the news of the world. and the rest of the company and the rest of the titles had -- we had appointed new lawyers and there wasn't i job for tom once we closed the news of the world and he left. >> someone is still dealing with the news of the world legal cases, though, presumably. >> yeah. the civil cases are being dealt with by -- like you said, the first one is the standards and management committee that we've set up. and you've seen the announcements on that recently. and i won't go over it. i know james and rupert have talked about it. but also farris, who'd been doing the civil indications all along, we've got some test cases coming up before the judge in january and there are people dealing with it. but tom croh