he did not -- tom crone did not say anything about wrongdoing. nothing discussed in the meeting led me to believe further investigation was necessary. he is very clear on his reflection of that meeting. you are not. >> i am sorry but i am clear there was no ambiguity about the significance of that document and what options were there for the company to take. one was to settle and one was to fight the case. we took the one to fight the case. as far as i am concerned there was no ambiguity. there was no suggestion then or now that anybody tried to conceal anything. that was a document produced by the police. >> you could not support james murdoch's recommendations from that meeting. he misremembers what was discussed? >> the reason why the clarification was put out in the first place was simply because it was alleged wrongfully that as a result of what james murdoch said, we were guilty of either concealing or covering up a sequence of events and that had to be clarified because that is not factually correct. >> in terms of further investigation, f

collin myler was the last editor, tom crone was a lawyer. it boiled down to two questions. was there a cover-up of the possible phone hacking? know?did james murdoch there was a troubling email that came to light. >> it lasted about 15 minutes. it was discussed. >> there were private voicemails from gordon taylor, and other staff, neville -- the chief reporter, may have been involved. >> there was illegal activity in his home, in the form of these messages. evidence of that passed through the office. it was implicted wit hthh this knowledge. >> rewind to the july appearance, in front of the same mp's. >> were you made aware of the neville email? >> no. i was not aware of that. if i knew then what we know now, we would take more action. >> today's evidence, he did know. >> the first time, he realized it was involved, involving people beyond -- said, statement, as isaidi nothing led me to believe a further investigation was needed. >> they had to settle at a cost of 400,000 pounds, and four more hacking victims may also have a case. wanted toitor at the time give clive goodma

tom crone was the former legal manager of news international. he released a statement contradicting james murdoch's claims that he had no knowledge of the e-mail. myla was the editor of the news of the world when it was shut down. they're both appearing before the committee in a little over one hour from now. james murdoch could be called back for further questioning depending on what they have to say. >>> all this week we're commemorating the 9/11 attacks. it's now almost ten years since they took place. in a few moments we'll meet an engineer who helped build the twin towers. his story when we come back. thae for failed investing. open an e-trade account and open doors, seize opportunities, take action with some of the most powerful yet easy-to-use trading tools on the planet all built to help you maximize the potential of every dollar you invest. successful investing isn't done by throwing ideas against the wall and hoping. it's done by lowering your costs and raising your expectations by using unbiased research and powerful screeners to buil

tom crone and the editor, coming back to a job at the newspaper. is that true? >> no. >> mr. myler, is that true? >> i was not there at the time. i arrived at the newspaper at the end of january 2007. they would be sent to prison. >> nobody said to you, well, actually, he could have the job back? >> no. >> in your mind, there was never any suggestion at any point? >> no. >> i do not think the editor being referred to is mr. myler. i have no idea what was said to mr. goodman. but mr. coulson had conversations with me on at least two or three occasions, where he said, at the end of all -- of it all, when clive had served his sentence, paid his funds, whatever was, -- whatever it was, he could come back and work for the company. in such a capacity. now, when i spoke to clive, i had meetings before and after, rather hanging around -- andy was hoping. he foresaw that he might be going to prison. he was quite pessimistic, worried about his family. now, i was able to say to him that he could find a way that he could come back to the company. >> but the chairman of the company -- >>

. >> the second suggestion which you just referred to, i quote tom crone and others promise on many occasionsck to a job to the newspaper if i did not implicate the newspaper or any of them. is that true? >> it's not true. >> mr. myler, is that to? >> i wasn't here at the time, to the conversations that allegedly took place. i arrived at the newspaper the end of january 2007. i think after almost days after the trial had finished, and mr. goodman and -- >> but nobody ever said to you, well, actually we said he could have his job back to? >> not at all. >> there was never any suggestion that you would rehire him at any point? >> no, no. >> i don't think -- [inaudible] >> i realized that. >> and how this might have a rose was through the conflation of, is that i had no idea what he said to mr. goodman along the way. but mr. carson had conversations with me on at least three occasions, two or three locations, where he said that, if client was guilty and sentenced, when he served his sentence, pages fine, it is committee service, whatever it was, he was hoping that he could persuade the company t

crone. would you not admit your credibility has been somewhat damaged by the question that my colleague, tom watson, put to you when you were clearly stated to the evidence in the committee in 2009 the confidentiality was not a factor and now you're trying to parse the words confidentiality and secrecy? come on, sir -- >> there was no hiding it. i mean, the last time the committee knew very well that there was a confidentiality clause in the agreement. they knew very well that the deal was to pay him some money, give him a degree of confidentiality. of course it was a factor. we've never hidden but it wasn't secrecy gets more money. >> it seems to be plainly contradictory. >> we have a couple more questions and then we'll be done. jim sheridan? >> mr. myler, it's been a long day and i hope my recollection of the facts is correct. in response to mr. davis, you said you didn't know anything or wanted to get involved in any individual payments to people; is that right? >> no. i wasn't involved in any negotiation or conversations about mr. goodman's -- >> why are you making a payment at all? >>