tom crone? >> when we made the very regrettable decision to close the use of the world after 168 years tom crone has predominantly in the news of the world lawyer. he's in our little manager because of the situation at the news of the world he predominantly spent most of his time in fact pretty much 99% of his time on the news of the world and the rest of the company and the rest of the title had been appointed new lawyers and close news of the world and he left. someone is still [inaudible] presumably? >> of the cases are being dealt with by, like i said the first one is the standards management committee that we have set up and we've seen the management recently and we've talked about that. but also the civil cases we got some test cases coming up before the judge in january and they are all people dealing with it. but tom crone's role was a hands-on legal manager news of the world. >> i must have misunderstood what james murdock implied but it's been a busy day. as the editor of the news of t

any possible story could go in the paper and was tom crone's job to make sure that any attempt to sue us here's the for u-haul thumb here's the tape. least once a month someone would try to attempt to sue every story i've written because it was a way of making a lot of money and the but deny it, they would deny everything said. and you would turn around and say join the conscript and they would back away. in seven years i said i.t. fi diane upright and about 300 stories and news of the world. they were on tape. >> and the question of the expenses. can you tell us a little bit, again, without any personal examples of the culture in the tabloid newspapers that you work for in relation to expenses crux first of all, the news of the world. how would you describe the attitude of the consensus in news of the world? >> in some regards we were not well paid. the salary was only 60,000 year and as a way to bump up the salary we were given a certain amount of leeway of 15 or 20 a year. is that legal? it's not. that was just the way for example one guy was living the side down and they would say

instructions of the chief legal officer. >> you said you were not involved in the decision to get rid of tom crone. whose decision was that? >> in the company at the time the chief exit of mr. brooks. the chief executive of the company and the senior personnel. >> he left the data for the day after allegations made originally about phone hacking. was that linked? what happened, how did he leave the company? >> that i don't know. that would have been at a time the news of the world better for you to ask him why did he resign? >> he resigned sadly last friday following saying i was in charge of the company during this period stepped out. >> did they ask to leave? >> they both asked to leave. >> why did you not accept the resignation when she first offered it? >> because i believed -- >> why did you the second time in? >> in the event she [inaudible] >> can you tell us how much of the characters have been paid off? how much the been given as a financial settlement on the news international? >> in the case it would be considerable to the service 5 million, 10 million? >> as confidential. >> any confid

any possible story could go in the paper and was tom crone's job to make sure that any attempt to sue us here's the for u-haul thumb here's the tape. least once a month someone would try to attempt to sue every story i've written because it was a way of making a lot of money and the but deny it, they would deny everything said. and you would turn around and say join the conscript and they would back away. in seven years i said i.t. fi diane upright and about 300 stories and news of the world. they were on tape. >> and the question of the expenses. can you tell us a little bit, again, without any personal examples of the culture in the tabloid newspapers that you work for in relation to expenses crux first of all, the news of the world. how would you describe the attitude of the consensus in news of the world? >> in some regards we were not well paid. the salary was only 60,000 year and as a way to bump up the salary we were given a certain amount of leeway of 15 or 20 a year. is that legal? it's not. that was just the way for example one guy was living the side down and they would say

since your answer to me shows that news international did know that tom crone had authorized this surveillance, why did you not write to the committee to alert us the evidence given by mr. crone in september was not true? >> my understanding that this information came to news international's attention very, very recently, in the last few days or weeks, and it was something that was not known to us and confirmed, is my understand. >> so you would have done if you knew we had been misled, you would have supplied that to the committee? >> i'd have to -- i don't know exactly when ohs in the company became aware of it or our legal counsel and so on, but again, you know, those are the matters to december close before this committee i've tried to be as complete as i can in sending you documents and things that we've understood and found out since my last system. >> i'm sure you would agree that only news corporation can clear up this matter. i wish you luck in pursuing your ethical review of the company. thank you. >> i think given the line of questioning, louise has allowed tom to come in. >> be awa