the press" and national security advisor tom donilon on cnn. and he was on fox news sunday and the same guy on "this week" request w christiane amanpour. one guy. (laughter) bush administration hits them with shock and awe and you've got one guy-- no one's ever heard of. this guy better be rambo. >> it's a very important point for your viewers and americans generally to understand. this was an effort across two administrations. indeed, many of the same professionals who worked for president bush on this project work with us today. so it is not a matter of partisanship. >> jon: (whispering) what are you doing? (laughter) whatever happened to those guy's sucked in? this shows we can accomplish our goals without waging regime change war on other countries. it shows the bush administration monday morning waterboarders that intelligence can be developed through more traditional less soul corroding means. jesus, democrats! you can't engage the republicans on their terms-- the blame game-- ends up with obama and the credit game, well, (bleep), we all

but first, president obama's national security advisor tom donilon. mr. donilon, welcome to "fox news sunday." >> chris, nice to be here. >> chris: let's start with that iconic photo of the situation room as the bin laden raid was going down. there you are in the middle of that tense scene. what was happening at that moment? were you watching aerial surveillance or were you also getting video from the commandos on the ground? >> a couple of things in response to that. first of all, i can't get into exactly what we were receiving technically. but we were able to monitor the operation in real-time. and receive briefings frommed a miller and leon panetta at the c.i.a. second, i'm not sure what we were monitoring at that very moment. but i have looked at the picture obviously, since then. and clearly, everybody was deeply concerned about the success of the mission and the safety of our operators. the president visited with the special forces operation yesterday at fort campbell and received a minute-by-minute briefing yesterday from the operators -- not from t

tapes were distributed to the press, i sat down with the president's national security adviser, tom donilon. mr. donilon, welcome to "meet the press." >> thank you, david. glad to be here. >> bottom line, what are you learning based on new intelligence from this raid? we referenced the videos just a moment ago. >> well, a couple points on that. first of all, as you know, the forces when they went in sunday night obviously took out osama bin laden, but also gathered up all the material that they could for exploitation by intelligence services, first point. second is the scale of what we've got here. this is the largest cache of intelligence derived from the scene of any single terrorist. it's about the size of a small college library. >> what does that mean? what does that actually tell us? we looked at the video we showed before. you see osama bin laden looking at images of himself on a screen. >> yes. >> where is that actually happening and when? do you have an idea? >> i don't have an idea with respect to the timing that i can share with you at this point, but let me tell you three or fou

it's not fair. >>> as we heard from tom donilon, george w.was the first person outside the white house to be informed of osama bin laden's death. the former president was invited but declined to attend thursday's ceremony at ground zero. but his closest aides were breathing a very public sigh of relief this week. i spoke with former secretary of state condoleezza rice about this milestone and about america's newly forged relationship with pakistan. pakistan, did they just mess up? are they just completely unreliable? clueless. >> well, i have to say that the biggest surprise in this for me -- i was not surprised we got him. i knew we would eventually get him. i was surprised where we found him. the idea that he could be in a suburb essentially of islamabad is quite remarkable. and so pakistan has some very hard questions to answer, and this isn't a time for bluster from pakistan. >> you say you were surprised that he was found in that suburb and even last year, leon panetta told abc, the director of the cia that he thought bin laden was in a

national security advisor tom donilon asking for up to one hundred eighty million dollars in can off these frozen assets to fund the rebels campaign as well as lethal weapons and a recognition of the opposition body as the quote sole legitimate interlocutor of the libyan people something france italy gambia and qatar have already done but the pleas to the u.s. once again show this hierarchical structure of nato so if they don't agree how does that mean for the rebel forces and will the other nato countries be willing to foot the bill here discuss this with me is matthew bell a former u.s. army captain i think so much for joining us tonight my pleasure so. rebel leader apparently today was meeting with tom donilon but what do you think is going to happen first of all if the u.s. decides that it doesn't want to recognize you know the rebel forces there and that they don't want to have over one hundred eighty million dollars that gadhafi is frozen assets is the rest of nato going to say ok that's fine that's your decision wolf but the bill it depends it is the french maybe i mean france

among the guests, white house national security adviser, tom donilon and rudy jewgiuliani, michael chertoff and michael hayden. >>> record water levels among the mighty mississippi. they are expected to be broken as the mississippi continues to rise this weekend. many residents who have never seen much flooding before are facing the painful possibility of evacuating. in memphis, tennessee, several homes are already flooded and evacuations are taking place. >> i have a lot of my mom's stuff in there. i don't know if i can even get in. you can only do what you can. >> let's go live again to nbc's jay gray in memphis for us. jay, it's an incredible scene there. we're looking at beale street, the famous beale street. it looks like a river. >> it is part of the mississippi river. over its banks and into the middle of beale street here. just talking with julie mart front weather channel, she says we're going to see showers here today, exactly what they don't need as they deal with all of this water adding to the misery. look, it's not even forecast to crest, the mississippi, until sometime wednes

among david gregory's guest, tom donilon and rudy giuliani and michael chertoff and former cia director general michael hayden. if it is sunday it is "meet the press." check your local listings. >>> preparing for the worst engineers say farm, small town some urban areas can see extensive flooding from the rising mighty mississippi river. and parts of memphis, tennessee, already under water and force something residents to evacuate. >> i wait until the water goes down to see what i can do. i have never been in nothing like this. in is all new to me. >> jay gray is live in memphis. with another good saturday morning to you, jay. we look at this area and really memphis has escaped pretty unscathed in terms of flooding. s that woman was saying she never experienced anything like this. >> yeah. absolutely. this is new experience for a lot of people in memphis and not one they will forget any time soon. we are looking at epic flooding for this area. the frightening thing this is the beginning. middle of beal street where the water continues to rise. and this the s the start after big weekend

national security adviser tom donilon told nbc's "meet the press" that evidence gathered at the compound shows bin laden was still calling the shots for al qaeda. >> osama bin laden was involved operationally a strategic direction, in the direction of operations, including their propaganda efforts, obviously. >> reporter: intelligence also shows before his death bin laden was still intent on killing americans. attacking u.s. targets such as trains, which would result in mass casualties. the first test of u.s./pakistani relations since bin laden's death could come this week. pakistani intelligence is interrogating bin laden's three wives and four other women taken into custody at that compound. the u.s. has asked the pakistanis for whatever information they get from those interrogations be provided to u.s. intelligence. there has been no word yet on just how forthcoming they'll be, lester. >> jim miklaszewski in washington, thanks. >>> those behind the scenes bin laden clips are playing to a pretty tough audience in pakistan, bin laden's apparent home for the last several years. nbc's pet

fannie mae had long and deep tentacles throughout washington, many people in positions of power, tom donilony adviser, was at fannie mae. tom nides was at fannie mae, now at the state department. >> bill daley, who was on the board, whose son was a lobbyist for one of the gocs during the period. >> tim geithner, president of the new york fed, at the vortex of the regulatory framework at the critical moment, now treasury secretary. there you have it. what explains this failure of people who clearly at a minimum their judgment was off in the buildup to this to be held accountable at a policy level in terms of where they end up? >> i don't know, eliot. if you could answer that question, you would be helping a lot of people. >> is there a notion that it bothers? >> it's very bothersome because they're being rewarded for failure, and that is not the american way, at least the way i know it. >> fascinating book. you name names, tell us who done it, and even have answers how to make sure it doesn't happen again. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you. and investing billions of dollars to improv

but president obama's national security adviser tom donilon tells cnn, remember, pakistan is a key u.s. ally. >> the fact is osama bin laden was in abbottabad, pakistan, for six years or so. more terrorists have been captured or killed on pakistan soil than any other place in the world. they have been a very important partner for the united states in efforts against terrorism. >> mark, thanks so much in washington. >>> of course, we're still learning more about the raid on bin laden's compound. on cnn's "fareed zakaria: gps" today, the courier was first identified during the bush administration. >> i think it was about four years ago in 2007, we had built up sufficient lead information on the name of the courier that we thought it was ready for presidential primetime. so we briefed it to the president not as something imminent, but as our most promising lead to track down bin laden. >> so this is classic human intelligence. you had people on the ground. they talked to people. they developed relationships. is that right? >> it is. but it also came out of detainee interrogations. one of

fannie mae had long and deep tentacles throughout washington, many people in positions of power, tom donilon, national security adviser, was at fannie mae. tom nides was at fannie mae, now at the state department. >> bill daley, who was on the board, whose son was a lobbyist for one of the gocs during the period. >> tim geithner, president of the new york fed, at the vortex of the regulatory framework at the critical moment, now treasury secretary. there you have it. what explains this failure of people who clearly at a minimum their judgment was off in the buildup to this to be held accountable at a policy level in terms of where they end up? >> i don't know, eliot. if you could answer that question, you would be helping a lot of people. >> is there a notion that it bothers? >> it's very bothersome because they're being rewarded for failure, and that is not the american way, at least the way i know it. >> fascinating book. you name names, tell us who done it, and even have answers how to make sure it doesn't happen again. thanks so much for coming on. >> thank you. >>> the list of disputes

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joining me, the president's national security advisor tom donilon, plus respective from the mayor ofduring the 9/11 attacks, rudy giuliani, former director of the cia during the bush administration, michael hayden, and former director of homeland security, michael chertoff. plus the impact and what it means for president obama in 2012. all coming up this morning on "meet the press." >>> a new york-based game company has released a new video game called the death of osama bin laden. he players have five minutes to navigate a maze of rooms to get to the al qaeda leader. they also have to gather the intelligence and destroy the downed helicopter outside bin laden's compound. the company has also released games based on other military missions, including the capture of saddam hussein. >>> of course, the good folks at "snl" couldn't pass up the chance to talk about osama bin laden's death. >> that's right. they decided to imagine what it would be like if a tape were found of bin laden's last will and testament. take a listen. >> place of burial, i leave the decision to my executors provid

among the guests, white house national security adviser tom donilon and mayor rudy giuliani.retary michael chertoff and general michael hayden. if it is sunday, it's "meet the press." check your local listings. >>> residents in the midwest are agonizing over whether to flee the rising mississippi river and only appear it is situation will indeed get worse before it gets better. because that river is not expected to crest until next week. farms, small towns, areas already under water. that dlus parts of memphis, tennessee. joining me live on the phone is john thatcher with the mid south red cross. john, good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> i'm glad you are here. give us an assessment how things are in memphis. how bad is it? >> right now we are experiencing 46.8 level here in memphis. expected crest will be 48 feet on may 11. we did receive some good news yesterday. initially the crest was supposed to last four to search days. er in now saying it will lapse around three days. but we -- we are above flood stage in memphis, tennessee, 34 feet. that's expected

osama bin laden, president obama, and bob woodward, the role of pakistan -- tom donilon told me thistly, he has not seen evidence that would lead him to believe that the military leadership had any idea that bin laden was there. that's the key question, isn't it? >> yes, and i think the information they have is stronger. they have really good, solid intelligence that the president of pakistan, zardari, the head of the intelligence service, general pasha, did not know in advance, and they are the key elements here, but donilon also said something very important. there was a support structure there in pakistan -- >> for him, yeah. >> and the expectation is let's find that. >> mike murphy, some political notes as well. rudy giuliani on the program saying, no, he still is considering a run for 2012. at some point, he still will. is there room for him this time? >> there's room. there's always room. he's famous, he has a certain face. i don't think he could get nominated. he ran last time, campaign didn't work out. he could get in, he could be a factor. i don't think he's one of the main

tom donilon. we'll hear from new york mayor rudy giuliani, michael chertoff as well as general michael hayden. >>> small towns and some urban areas could see extensive flooding from the rising mississippi river and parts of memphis, tennessee are already under water, force something residents to evacuate. >> i don't know what i'm going to do. i have to wait until this water goes down to see what i can do. i've never been in nothing like this. this is all new to me. >> nbc's jay gray is live for us in memphis, right there along beale street. i know we're seeing incredible pictures of the flooding there. how bad is it? can you put it in perspective for us? >> i'll try to, alex. it's bad and getting worse. especially now, we're starting to see some of the rain we talked about during the day here. it's going to fall for a couple of hours were we're told exactly what this area does not need. we're in downtown memphis, standing in the middle of beale street. the mississippi river has come over its banks

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"as the actual raid approach, daily meetings were held, chaired by national security advisor tom donilon and their deputies, chaired by john brennan, the president's counterterrorism adviser. at an april 19 meeting in the situation room, the president approve the assault as the course of action. on april 28, just after the east room announcement that cia director leon panetta would be succeeding robert gates as defense secretary, the president held another meeting in the situation room and went through a everyone's final recommendation. he did not announce the decision at that time, but briefed the council." irvine, kentucky. dwight, your reaction to osama bin laden being killed. >> i thought it was great. i would like to thank c-span, by the way. i'd like to congratulate the military, the cia, both administrations. but i would like to clear some things up a little bit here. a guy said on fox news, or another news network, from the government -- he mentioned that 1998, this already been done, osama bin laden had been killed. i remember when i had a part- time job and we had a lot of peop

among the guests, michael chertoff, michael hayden and white house national security adviser tom donilon. >>> now we want a check of the top news stories with natalie at the news desk. good morning. >> good morning, david. good morning, everyone. >>> many residents of the mississippi delta are being forced to evacuate as the river rushes south and the water is rising. nbc's ron mott is in memphis, tennessee weather the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. a lot of damage has been done in the north. here in memphis and points south along the mississippi river, people are bracing for much of the same. for the second straight spring john and dora richards have watched as river water inched toward their house 80 miles north of memphis. unlike last year when flooding seeped inside the home they are feeling lucky. >> the last two years you thought, well, in the morning am i going to put my feet in water. >> reporter: while the worst appears to be behind residents and businesses here weather the fork of the river cresting thursday, the situation upstream is more dire, especially for