"fareed zakaria gps" is next with tom donilon's final interview as nsa director. >>> this is "gps," the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria. we'll start the show with an exclusive with tom donilon, president obama's national security adviser. today is his last day in office. he sat down with me for an exit interview. we talk about edward snowden, the nsa, russia, china, syria, iran, and reflections on his teen you are at the president's side. >>> then, 24 years ago andrew sullivan laid out the first major intellectual argument for same-sex marriage. the idea was controversial at the time. today it seems inevitable. we'll talk to him about this fascinating journey. >>> and the rhodes scholarship of the 21st century. that's what one of america's wealthiest men says he has just started. at yale, harvard, princeton, stanford? nope. stay tuned to find out where. >>> then africa, not one but two american presidents visited there this week. chinese president xi hit it on his first trip abroad. i will give you my views on the

let's get started. >>> president obama's first meeting every morning is with tom donilon, the national security adviser. donilon briefs president obama on his portfolio, which the president has said is literally the entire world. henry kissinger said he believed on this program that donilon fulfilled his job superbly. on friday he sat down with me for an exit interview. tom donilon, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you, fareed, good to see you. >> i've got to ask you first the news of the moment. >> okay. >> do you have assurances from the russian government that edward snowden is not going to be allowed to stay in russia and that he will have to go somewhere else? >> i'll say a few things about that. number one, the view of the united states and the position of the united states that we've been pursuing is that snowden should be returned to the united states. he is not -- he has a revoked passport, he's not traveling on valid papers and he should be returned to the united states because he's wanted here for a crime. we've been in discussions through law enforcement channels with the

hey, tom donilon is out. we've got susan rice.top of the hour. >> steve: we got a major update on a story we've been telling you about. this little girl's life depends on kathleen sebelius. but she's saying sorry, sarah. i can't intervene. >> i've asked them to take another look at it, but i think that i would defer to the scientists and to the organ experts in this instance. >> steve: that's the best you can do? sarah's family asked sebelius to appeal to a federal organ transplant rule to keep sarah from getting a lung because sarah is only ten. she needs to be 12 to get it. sarah has cystic fibrosis. her doctors say she has only weeks to live at that hospital in philadelphia. >> gretchen: public employee relations board in the capitol being rocked by allegations it discriminated against potentially white conservative employees. that's according to the former executive director who is black. he says ann hoffman and wasserman opposed his efforts to hire qualified employees because they were white or conservative. he says he was at

go back and talk about tom donilon? does tom of legacy donilon leave that they can build on or not build on? tom donilon did a number of different things. he's a lawyer, known as a political operative who spent a lot of time studying foreign policy. you would see him go home with full giant l.l. bean bags of foreign policy readings on the weekend. he kept track of the number of president.brief the it hit about 800 by the time he announced his time. time to leave. >> that's right. had threeer hand, he big projects i think he really focused on. one of them was china. them was trying to right the saudi relationship. and a third and critical one was pakistan. it's china that i think he most wants to be recalled for and thatsort of interesting this announcement came just before the meeting that's just begun now between president obama and xi jinping, the president of china, and mr. donilon is sitting in on that one but it was really his thisto sort of organize informal meeting at the old annenberg estate in california pivotth

will tom donilon be known for the pivot to asia, giving the fact it doesn't seem to have happened yete actually calling it rebalancing, doesn't like the word pivot, but he was the one that went to beijing to set up this meeting we're about to see in california. i was with the president last fall when he went to asia, burma, thailand, kept talking about how this is a sign of his priority for a second term. he spent a lot of the time on the phone dealing with the crisis in egypt at that time. so, you know, that trip made clear, no merit how much you want to focus on asia and need to focus on asia, other parts of the world -- i think they look at that long term, yes, any given day, any given wee, the pivot to asia will look problematic, but ten years down the road, 20 years down the road, it had look like they set the stage for a broader, longer-term policy. >> peter baker, you get points in my book as referring to to as burma. we have to leave it there. peter alexander from the white house, thsnk you. thank you to "new york times'" peter baker. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, more

tom donilon is out.usan rice is promoted. >>> the man who could hold the answers about performance enhancing drugs is ready to talk. >>> and the joke that infuriated his bosses. >>> but first, today's eye opener your world in 90 seconds. >> this is a simple fix. i would hope they would contact discuss make the recalls happen. >>> a recall standoff between chrysler and the federal government. >> u.s. safety regulators want the automaker to recall jeep cherokees and liberties. >> the design can lead to fires when the vehicle struck from behind. >> chrysler insists vehicles are safe. >>> and major league baseball may try to success spend as many as 20 people including alex rodriguez, and ryan braun. >> anthony bosch may provide testimony. >> i have addressed it i have commented on it and i will say nothing further about it. >>> a major shuffle on the president's foreign policy team. tom donilon will be replaced by susan price. >> a historic hearing on sexual assault in the armed services. >> each said that

>> tom donilon part of the president's team.security adviser, went up to national security adviser, an immensely influential and powerful figure behind the scenes. he doesn't have a public presence very often. susan rice, people know her well because of the benghazi scandal, she has been a very close adviser to the president, a close friend and aide. this is going to be seen by republicans as yet another act of defiance by president obama. not a position that requires senate confirmation. it puts somebody with a different portfolio when it comes to foreign policy as national security adviser, she advocates for intervention in genocide. and tom donilon has been focused on asia, and we have the asia pivot, the turn to asia policy. and also in terms of politics, susan rice because of the benghazi controversy, fairly controversial and there will be a lot of republicans complaining about the move today, but there is nothing they can do about it, the position doesn't require senate confirmation. >> and a big move at the united nations

ambassador susan rice to replace tom donilon, who is stepping down.this afternoon, 2:15, in the rose garden. rice became a gop target after her sunday show appearances delivering talking points about the attacks on september 11th and her name was pulled from consideration to succeed hillary clinton for secretary of state. >> i think the president has tremendous respect and affection for susan rice. she's done a wonderful job for the united states at the united nations and as chuck said,s

the first thing t president obama praised the work of tom donilon. >> obama: i think tom has been onemost effective advisors our country has ever had. i am extraordinaryily proud to announce susan rice as our new security advisor. >> bill: susan stepped up to accept. >> mr. president, thank you so much. i'm deeply hon in order and humbled to serve our country as your national security advisor. >> bill: and then samantha power, former journalist pulitzer prize winning author on a book about genocide, her family was in the front row, but the 8-month-old wasn't too happy. he decided he would rather be anyplace but right there. [ laughter ] >> bill: in fact i have to tell you, the president -- when the president started speaking this 8-month-old started making noise. i thought there was a heckler. and i said oh my god michelle is going to level this heckeler. and then i realized it was an infant, and whoever -- i think it was a family member picked up the infant and carried him off, but at any rate samantha power who will or next ambassador to the united nationed. >> it would be the honor

there were a lot of issues where tom donilon where the need night of benghazi and why susan rice took the heat. bill: donilon had a long career in politics. he was a lobbyist in washington. he has been advising democrats for more than three decades. in 1993 joined the state department with president clinton but he has no experience in the military. martha: we have much more obviously this morning on the fallout from donilon's departure as national security advisor to the president and ambassador susan rice stepping into that post. we'll talk to some folks, about what republicans think, what everybody thinks about the new move. we'll get reaction from the former deputy chief of staff in the bush white house. karl rove will talk about the moves. he has been there when things shuffle around in the west wing. he will tell us what he thinks about all this. senator rand paul also with us in "america's newsroom" and gop congressman trey gowdy joins us as well. >>> back to this now. we're learning more about how the irs blew 50 million of your tax dollars on conferences. some of them were rea

>> reporter: scott, a quiet and powerful force, tom donilon was often the lasted a visor president obama consulted on big military and foreign policy decisions, donilon almost never invited controversy. the same cannot be said of his replacement. susan rice was battered for her televised description of the deadly september, 2012, attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi. >> we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned. >> reporter: republicans were furious she did not call it a terrorist attack and their opposition led mr. obama to nominate john kerry over rice as secretary of state. but mr. obama has always considered her a trusted advisor. while at the u.n., she advocated for intervention in libya and pushed new economic sanctions against north korea and iran through the security council. >> susan understands that there's no substitute for american leadership. she is at once passionate and pragmatic. i think everybody understands susan is a fierce champion for justice and human dignity but she's also mindful that we have to exer

rice replaces tom donilon, who's stepping down after more than two and a half years as national security advisor. >> susan is the consummate public servant, a patriot who puts her country first. she is fearless, she is tough. >> woodruff: that was as close as the president came to mentioning the fierce republican criticism aimed at rice after the attack on a u.s. diplomatic post in benghazi, libya. she initially relied on the administration's official version of events, depicting it as an act of muslim outrage. instead, it was a terror attack. rice played no role in crafting the so-called "talking points," but republican congressman doug lamborn of colorado said today she shares some blame. >> she went on the talk shows and just parroted the talking points that she was given. she showed no critical thinking, she showed no independent thought, and we need those qualities in a national security advisor. and she failed that test. >> woodruff: last december, amid the furor, rice withdrew from consideration to be secretary of state. unlike that post, the job of national security advisor does

tom donilon made no bones about the fact he wanted to leave at some point in the summer.ink they just waited a little bit to see if benghazi would get off the front pages. i think ultimately this is going to be a smooth sailing she doesn't need to get confirmed. there will be a lot of carping from republicans. it's a one-day story. >> that is a senate confirmation appointment and some republican try to somehow go after her because they can't go after susan rice? >> the first round of confirmations went relatively smoothly. >> chuck hagel. >> let's compare that to what's coming up for power at the u.n. a number of these hearings will get really ugly. it's the great republican opportunity to focus on an administration they want to focus on right now. >> viviana, there was some early reporting who tried to call this a shake-up. susan rice and samantha power have been very influential in the presidential policy for years. they were shifting the president in another direction and now they're in the front seat. >> it's not really a surprise for a lot of us who follow washington

she will replace tom donilon who will leave in july. some pundits say this is an insult to the republican party but it's not. it is defiance it all americans who care about protecting diplomats abroad. talking points doesn't believe susan rice lied. i believe she was told what to say and said it she did no investigation herself. but ms. rice knows, she knows who gave her the misleading talking points and she will not testify to that. therefore, susan rice is the face of the benghazi chaos. and now she has been rewarded, promoted by a president who also refuses to explain what happened in libya. outrageous? you bet. the president will also not explain the irs situation. his defenders denying that former irs chief douglas shulman visited the white house 157 times. but he was cleared into the people's house 157 times. that is a fact. those who diminish the shulman factor are lying directly to you of course the white house can clear all this up very easily the president chooses not to and his ache lights defend that. >> many of those meetin

ambassador susan rice to replace outgoing adviser tom donilon. chair of the intelligence committee. thank you very much, congressman. what do you think of these changes and samantha power to the u.n.? >> well, it's curious they would choose ambassador rice as the national security adviser, only because she's such a political lightning rod now. the one job you want to be void of all that political attention. this is the one post that needs to be right down the middle. this needs to be about national security, and this job also has that quiet role of traveling around the world on occasion to deliver messages, to obtain information, to work with congress on issues of national security. i look forward to doing that. i hope we can get over at least the sheer noise and volume about her role in the benghazi and other things so we can get on the business of national security. >> the radio in the white house is she was vindicating, that she put all the output and read what she was handed, and she was told this was the approval -- approved talking points.

rice would replace tom donilon, who is resigning. >> this has been an open secret for months, to be honest, the idea that when susan rice was passed over or however you want to describe it, secretary of state. >> this has been a poorly kept secret in washington. i think the president has tremendous respect and affection for susan rice. >> rice's deployment comes as she continues to fuel fire over her appearance on five sunday talk shows following the deaths of four american diplomats in bengha benghazi. joining me now, joseph crawley. sir, good to have you here and susan rice certainly came under fire from republicans. senators like john mccain calling her not very bright and today, senator mccain is tweeting obviously, i disagree with the appointment of susan rice, but i'll make every effort to work with her on important issues. the benghazi scandal cost her a lot. the potential nomination of secretary of state to replace hillary clinton. this post does not need a senate confirmation, so do you see this as a bit of a redemption, almost a consolation price for ambassador rice? >> i wouldn'

ambassador susan rice to replace tom donilon, who is stepping down. the president making that announcement this afternoon, 2:15, in the rose garden. rice became a gop target after her sunday show appearances delivering talking points about the attacks on september 11th and her name was pulled from consideration to succeed hillary clinton for secretary of state. >> i think the president has tremendous respect and affection for susan rice. she's done a wonderful job for the united states at the united nations and as chuck said, this is not a senate confirmable job, so there's no concern on his part in elevating susan. >> i want to bring in washington post columnist dana milbank and casey hunt. good morning. >> good morning. >> tom donilon's been with the administration since the president took office and obviously, susan rice had been rumored to be the national security adviser in waiting, so this isn't a big surprise, dana, but why now? >> well, it was going to happen at some point eventually, so why not now? there had been some disappointment within t

tom donilon is out.usan rice is promoted. >>> the man who could hold the answers about performance enhancing drugs is ready to talk. >>> and the joke that infuriated his bosses. >>> but first, today's eye opener, your world in 90 seconds. >> this is a simple fix. i would hope they would contact discuss make the recalls happen. >>> a recall standoff between chrysler and the federal

he chose susan rice to replace tom donilon as national security advisor.on five sunday shows after benghazi terror attack saying a video was to blame. >> last thing, she is most qualified and experienced experts. how did she get the information on benghazi so wrong. >> i welcome the opportunity to correct the record especially for some of these that persist in misrepresenting the facts. you have seen the so-called talking points. you have seen the testimony of the deputy director of the c.i.a. you have seen the documents themselves that demonstrate that the central contested point that ambassador rice made on those sunday shows was drafted in the first instance and in every instance thereafter by the c.i.a. >> why didn't they say, they almost immediately knew this was terror. if she is so experienced in these matters why wouldn't she see this as they saw it? >> you are suggesting that a senior member of the national security team should disagree with the assessment of the intelligence community provided by the c.i.a.? >> but it had been changed so much the

he will announce today that tom donilon will step on you and be replaced by u.n. ambassador susan rice. the appointment does not require senate confirmation. afpl bass tkoer rice of cours ambassador rice at the center of the benghazi scandal after she went on sunday talk shows days after the attack that killed four americans and blamed it on the video. the information she gave later turned out to be incorrect. >> the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack, that what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cry row a cairo as a consequence of the video. people gathered outside of the embassy and it grew very violent. jon: charlie hurt is a columnist for the washington times, a longtime observer of how things go in washington. explain this move, charlie. >> well, you know, whether she lied when she game those talking points or she was -- misunderstood the situation, either way she got it spectacularly wrong, why don't we make her national se

first of all, thank tom donilon his national security adviser for his service. tom donilon leaving. he'll announce that susan rice, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, will be his next national security adviser. she has been controversial as all of our viewers know as a result of what happened after the benghazi attack. and her appearance on five sunday shows. he will also announce that he's nominating samantha power, another former official of his national security council as his next u.s. ambassador to the united nations. jessica yellin is standing by. we're only seconds away. these are very important decisions by the president. >> reporter: wolf, they are. in both moves the president is simultaneously choosing people that could be lightning rods for controversy, but also very familiar faces and democrats say this is classic obama in going with members of the foreign policy team to keep a sense of continuity in his policy. on the controversy, as you point out, susan rice has been at the center of the storm over those benghazi talking points for her comments in the aftermath

. >> reporter: tom donilon is resigning from his post and susan rice will replace him. the white house said just a few minutes ago the president will be holding a press conference about five hours from now for a personnel announcement. donilon has been in his post since october of 2010 and heavily involved in the raid to kill osama bin laden in 2011. rice is currently the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. the president's pick is seen as a defiant move top republicans. many in the gop harshly criticized rice for giving a misleading account on the deadly attack on the u.s. con lat in benghazi this past september. but this post does not require senate conformation. i just reached out to california senators barbara boxer and dianne feinstein for their reaction to this news. so far i have not heard back. live in washington kyla campbell ktvu channel 2 news. >>> we have new details on president obama's visit to the bay area this week. there is a last minute edition to the president's schedule. president obama arrives in the bay area tomorrow to have a pair of fundraisers

secondly, i think tom donilon has done a superb job. security adviser is in many ways is principal, maybe the key resource for the president. if should be given every opportunity from the outside to succeed. >> single question the administration faces probably most urgently that is being pressed upon it is, should the united states intervene militarily in syria? >> let somebody define for me a strategic objective for the united states. what is it we're trying to achieve? and then one can judge the various kinds of interventions in relation to that objective. we've now had four wars. we have ended them with great enthusiasm. but after some measurable period of time we found ourselves in a position where the public would not sustain the effort. and where the only debate inside the united states was to withdraw. but by definition, you can't undertake military intervention for which you have to withdrawal at the end and divide your country. somebody has to explain what is it we're trying to accomplish, what is the outcome, what is the speci

national security adviser tom donilon will resign after nearly three years. he'll be replaced by susan rice who comes under fire after delivering talking points on the attack in benghazi. >>> the french government says lab tests showed the use of nerve gas inside syria. officials say they have evidence of several uses of sarin gas in a localized way, most likely by pro-government forces. >>> yankees' slugger alex rodriguez is one of about 20 players who may face up to 100-game suspensions. now, that is according to espn's "outside the lines." the brewers' ryan braun could also face a 100-game ban. >>> an arizona artist has created a big stir in his community. check this out. residents of paulden want the man to take down a nine-foot gargoyle he constructed in his yard. however, it's not just the gothic statue that they're angry about. it's the fact that it's anatomically correct. yeah, we saved you that. didn't want to show that to you. early morning tv. families are watching. county officials say the nudity is offensive, but the artist claims, quote, it need

national security adviser tom donilon is stepping down and susan rice is replacing him. the president considered nominating rice to be his second-term secretary of state. she withdrew from consideration when republicans criticized her for claiming last september's deadly attack in benghazi was as a result of a spontaneous riot. >>> turning to the weather now. another nice start to the day. storm team 4 meteorologist tom kierein joins us with his first forecast. tom. >> good morning. yet another day of juniper effects after a chilly start this morning. we were down near 50 degrees starting off early this morning. but now temperatures have climbed back into the 70s. there is a view of the sky over washington. right now beautiful view from the news4 sky watcher camera. you can see quite a bit of sunshine there. right now camera panning over towards rosslyn and falls church and fairfax county. and off in the distance on the horizon is tysons corner in the foreground. that's american university. and panning the camera farther to the west, way off in the distance there is loud

beta graduate and served on the national council during the clinton administration and replaces tom donilon. >>> president obama is heading back to the bay area tomorrow and there's been a last-minute addition to his schedule. he will arrive at moffett field tomorrow evening. he will attend two fund-raisers in the south bay. then friday morning he will make a statement about the affordable care act. that addition reportedly came after some high-profile democrats complained that president obama only comes to the bay area for fund-raisers. >>> and michelle obama is getting attention for the way she handled a heckler. the protester repeatedly interrupted her speech, demanding the president sign an order on gay rights. michelle obama walked over to the protester and said "listen to me or you can take the mic. but i'm leaving. you all decide. you have one choice." the crowd shouted for the first lady to continue and the escorter was -- protester was escorted out. >>> a man is in custody after a car chase. dive teams pulled out his range rover this northerning. the incident began -- this morning.

we'll start the show with an exclusive with tom donilon, president obama's national security adviser.ce. he sat down with me for an exit interview. we talk about edward snowden, the nsa, russia, china, syria, iran, and reflections on his teen you are at the president's side. >>> then, 24 years ago andrew sullivan laid out the first major intellectual argument for same-sex marriage. the idea was controversial at the time. today it seems inevitable. we'll talk to him about this fascinating journey. >>> and the rhodes scholarship of the 21st

the outgoing national security adviser tom donilon said obama confronted his chinese counterpart on u.s. allegations conspiracy.ed cyber >> this issue that the president talked about today is the issue economic theft,d theft of intellectual property and other kinds of property, and the public and private room in the u.s. by entities based in china. if there continues to be this direct theft of the u.s. property that this was going to be a very difficult problem in the economic relationship, and was going to be an inhibitor to the relationship reaching its full potential makeup that is tom donilon talking about cyber piracy. in response to the cyber theft complaints, the chinese president said the u.s. has failed to properly address cyberattacks against china. both sides announced they reached common ground on seeking the to nuclearization of north korea. on the issue of climate change, they agreed to work jointly on reducing the potent greenhouse gases used in there conditioners and refrigerators. at the white house says the u.s. and china has reached that could reduce up to a year's wo