colorado democratic senator mark udall plus president obama's former national security advisor tom donlon and c.e.o. deputy director is key member of the group that advised the president how to reform the nsa. all that plus our own panel of analysts. 60 years of news, because this is "face the nation." good morning again, the house intelligence committee chairman mike rogers has been out front from the beginning defending the nsa programs since they first came under fire, mr. chairman, welcome. >> thank you. >> schieffer: i want to ask you about the president's speech, but the first thing i want to get to is that you suggested that perhaps edward snowden had some help from the russians. he of course the man who dumped all of this information out on us from the web and from the american files. what do you say to that? >> couple of things, i said that there -- he's likely to have had help, i think there are some interesting questions we have to answer that certainly would lend one to believe that the russians had at least in some part something to do with a, either helping his capabilities.

gates said he had to remind the vice president and tom donlon they weren't in the chain of command andy to give orders to those officers. it's a problem. >> sorry we don't have more time. thanks very much. >>> that's it for tonight's show. i guess we will have to go and read gates' book, figure this whole thing out and read all about chris christie. i'm larry kudlow. we'll be back tomorrow night with follow-ups. if you've got copd like me... ...hey breathing's hard. know the feeling? copd includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis. spiriva is a once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that helps open my obstructed airways for a full 24 hours. spiriva helps me breathe easier. spiriva handihaler tiotropium bromide inhalation powder does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems, glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens, your throat or tongue swells, yo