let's get thoughts from tom edgen, he's a senior research analyst with the telse advisory group and follows media companies. welcome, good to have you with us. do you believe mr. murdoch is going to go away permanently, and if so, why did he? >> i think the deal for timewarner is dead. you know, we weren't sure about it to begin with. we had a 50/50 shot and that's essentially because to net that leverage was going to be too high. >> you know, tom, there are those who say basically murdoch is raising more cash, he's going to make it a sweeter offer and he'll be successful. why don't you think that's in the card? >> if you include the proceeds that they get, if the bid is 50% cash, which i think is what timewarner needs and wants, it's still higher cash. the leverage goes to above four times. >> you know mr. bucas at timewarner has got the stock price up but the cost has been perhaps selling other elements of the company, timewarner cable, the publishing group, time inc breaking them apart. that makes timewarner more digestible to another company. is there a company that might find timewarne