tom foreman is here with answers. >> carol, for the skeptics this sounds way too much like the dog ate and the administration saying let's look to the future and not trouble ourselves with what went wrong. what wept wrong if something went wrong is pretty important because we're not just talking about words. we're talking about really big numbers. ♪ if every federal worker in the executive branch alone sent and received as many e-mails as an average business user, that would be more than 326 million a day or 3,777 every second. that's a lot to keep track of, and now not only the irs but also the epa is saying -- >> we may have some e-mails that we cannot produce that we should have kept. >> reporter: the irs boss says part of the problem is budget cuts that have made it hard to maintain the government's vast network of computers, even though he admits this doesn't look good. >> it is suspicious. when we uncovered it, we pursued evidence to try to figure out what happened. we found a train of e-mails that the congress has had for some time that noted that they worked extraordinarily har

tom foreman has that. >> reporter: the bergdahl deal is under siege. the president saying it was clear and clean. one army sarge sentieergeant is home. >> we still have one army sergeant coming home that was in captivity. full stop. we don't condition that. >> >> reporter: but the uproar in congress, especially republicans, is growing louder. >> it is just wrong. >> i don't like the deal. >> reporter: what makes them think this trade stinks? for starters all five insurgence were reporters for the taliban. accused terrorists now set free. never mind they will be held in qatar for a year. >> it is ill-founded. it is a mistake and it is putting the lives of american servicemen and women at risk and that to me is unacceptable to the american people. >> reporter: next, there is bergdahl's own record. accusations growing from fellow troops deserted them in combat costing lives of other soldiers. >> like he walked away. >> some say they are glad he was rescued but his behavior must be investigated that the deal to bring him home could have long-term consequen

>> tom foreman, thank you very much. joining me is brad thor, author of "act of war" and also the undersecretary of the army, josh porter served with bowe bergdahl and former jag attorney jeffrey corn. i'm glad to have all of you here tonight and for members of the military, thank you for your service. josh, i want to begin with you. you say you're speaking on your own accord and not as part of any political opposition but you were there with bowe bergdahl the night he went missing. how does he look to you on this tape and what jumped out to you? >> well, i mean, yes, you guys did mention that he looked pale, which is a little bit counter of what i was thinking he might be getting regular sunlight. but -- however, hits amount of malnourishment is not that much dissimilar from any soldier coming back from combat. he was being taken care of and wasn't bruised and battered and didn't have any scars on his face or anything like that. >> all we can see is on his face. we don't know what is under there but presumably from ever

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our tom foreman takes a closer look at what's at stake. >> if you look at a map of iraq, you can see that baghdad is more or less in the middle of the country. baghdad, in the middle of the city, you can find the heavily protected green zone. that's where the u.s. emwabassy is, boarded on the south side by the tigris river. completed at the cost of $2350 million, biggest embassy in the world. it is guarded on all sides. there are barricades. there are switch k bas. and there are guard posts at every place you might get inside this giant blast wall designed to protect it from any sort of attack. the man presiding over all of this is ambassador steven becroft. he lived inside here. there are half a dozen apartment buildings for staff. offices handle everything from trade deals to visas to agriculture. there are about 5,600 workers who labor each day behind these fortified walls, troops standing by to protect them in the event of an attack. they can't leave without heavy guard. as a result, this is a place where they have to have everything they need. there's a swimming pool. there are

tom foreman, cnn, washington. >>> "outfront" tonight matthew farwell who contributed to the report onahl's disappearance, also a veteran and served in the same area of afghanistan as bergdahl. also a reporter embedded with the u.s. troops in afghanistan. best-selling author recently of "the most faithful spy." great to have both of you with us. alex, the u.s. military has this motto, right, leave no soldier behind. and you just heard tom's reporting. in this case, was it the right thing to do? is there ever a case where it isn't? >> no, i don't think there is ever a case where it isn't right to do. maybe we don't know for sure. it certainly looks like he is on the deserter side of that chasm. but that doesn't mean you don't go get him. among other things, until you get him you don't know whether or not he is a deserter. he should be subject to our justice system, not the taliban's justice system. so anybody who says he was not worth getting, i don't buy that. anybody who says we shouldn't have traded taliban commanders for him, i think that's a total misreading of what the situation i

tom foreman. general.nks very much. >>> as the ruthless isis group moves relentlessly toward the iraqi capital and massive american embassy there, what about the fate of thousands of american diplomats, thousands of other american civilians on the scene? our foreign affairs reporter elise labbot is taking a closer book into this part of the story. what you finding out? >> the u.s. embassy in baghdad is currently open for business but the state department is evaluating minute by minute whether it's time to pull out. with an islamist insurgent force moving swiftly toward baghdad, officials say the state department is preparing fresh plans for evacuating its staff in the event of total collapse. >> our top priority will remain being vigilant against any threats to our personnel serving overseas. >> reporter: the u.s. has some 5,300 personnel in iraq. about 2,000 of them americans. at its embassy in baghdad, and consulates in basra in the south and urbeal in the north. moving so many people in a war zone will

let's bring in cnn tom foreman. it was scary. i watched the whole thing.ust say, it was pretty frightening. >> it was fascinating to watch the whole thing. look, considering how frail he's looked in some public appearances recently, this really was a remarkable achievement but it wasn't so much a leap of faith on his part as a leap of fun. 90 years in and more than 6,000 feet up, the former president jumped at a chance for a birthday freefall tweeting it's a wonderful day in maine, in fact, nice enough for a parachute jump. his granddaughter jenna knew what was up coming up and down. >> we all thought it was a bit ambitious, but we are all thrilled, even my grandmother that he's following through with that plan today. >> reporter: strapped to a member of the all veteran parachute team, the 41st president rode it out like a pro. he was shot down out of a plane in world war ii and jumped again on his 75th birthday, his 80th and his 85th as well. greeted on land by his whole famous family. >> i wasn't worried in the least bit. >> happy birthday. i think it's

our tom foreman is joining us and he's got a little reality check. tom? >> when dick cheney speaks he's one of those characters in washington that can excite tremendous passions on either side of the issue and that is precisely what he has done now. >>> even as isis brutally rolls through iraq, the former vk is slamming president obama for allowing a security threat not seen since the cold war saying iraq is at risk of falling to a radical islamic terror threat and mr. obama is talking climate change. on capitol hill, a swift counterattacount er attack from democrats. >> if there's one thing this country does not need is that we should be taking advice from dick cheney on wars. >> to be sure the in the war to overthrow saddam hussein, the george w. bush white house where cheney was a huge player made many miscalculations. the war was initially to cost $50 to $60 billion and be relatively short. instead it lasted nine years and cost at least $800 billion. the administration thoughta i reinvigorated iraqi economy and oil trade would help pay for the war. th

cnn's tom foreman has a real good way for us to look at this and understand better. rning, tom. >> but it's not the toppling of the government that they may want, nor is it the establishment of the islamic state that they want. okay. so -- >> we do have tom foreman. >> we're having some technical problems >> we'll get back to him in a moment. let's start over. >> reporter: let's talk about the worst, best and most likely scenarios. we'll talk about this area where i.s.i.s. has been able to seize a lot of territory, and day by day, closer and closer to baghdad, bringing them within about 50 miles of the city here. worst-case scenario, this continues, and importantly sunnis, who have been supporting them already because they're angry at the shy i'd government here, so the 800 or so fighters are multiplied by millions of angry sunnis who in fact keep moving to topple the government in baghdad. best-care scenario -- the iraqi army responds well, they surround the city as they're already trying to do. they're able to fend off this attack and just as importantly the i.s.i.s

tom foreman takes a look. tom?ad is more or less in the middle of the country. and if you move into a map of baghdad, you look at the very heavily fortified green zone in the middle there, that's where you will find the u.s. on the southern edge by the tigris river. it's about the size of an amusement park or 60 football fields all put together. or also way around plus, this giant blast wall, so that even if someone got close, any bomb would be deflected or thwarted. steven beecroft lives within the compound. scores of offices handling everything from visas to trade, to security to agriculture they work in buildings that are hardened against attack. there are troops there to protect the 5600 workers inside this compound. many of the people can't leave often without a heavily armed escort. so inside they have cafeterias, workout rooms, swimming pool, they have tennis courts, they even have a movie theater and the ability to generate their own electricity and water, all part of the cost anderson? >> it is a city with

tom foreman, thanks very much. let's get reaction to my interview yesterday with john koskinen the irs commissioner, aaron shock of illinois is joining us, a member of the house ways and means committee. congressman, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to be with you. >> do you have any hard evidence there was a deliberate destruction of those e-mails on lois lerner's hard drive? >> we, we don't have any deliberate -- any information to suggest there was a deliberate effort, but let's start what we do know. everything we've been told by the administration and the irs that was supposed to be fact has been proven about the particulars of this issue. and that is what -- that is what is driving the outrage right now is that from the very beginning, the testimony repeatedly to congress by the ways and means committee who two years ago asked whether targeting was occurring and the assurances it wasn't all the way up to the point where it was rogue agents in cincinnati and it wasn't, the point which we were told nobod

tom foreman in washington. thank you, tom. we layed out some of the options for you.rk? here to discuss this, former military investigator robert mcfadden. you have an elusive force that operates outside of syria. vietnam and all of the other forces, cambodia, as a sanctuary that they can possibly run to, correct? >> well, quite possibly but in this case and as you heard, the operative word of the day is complicated. more than likely, though, they're in for the fight locally and regionally. so that's what we would expect for the near term to longer term. >> you heard what tom foreman had to say and we listed some of the options that the president is considering and that our government is considering. but what do you think the options could be? what options could be used to take out isis and how could they be executed? >> one thing the president mentioned was working with the groups that are nonextremists. that has been an exceptionally difficult thing to do. not impossible but really quite challenging. so that caught my attention. it certainly makes sense. that's what

tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> thank you, tom. >>> a lot of questions in the wake of bowe bergdahl'seated? should we be in the business of negotiating with terrorists? joining me is alan dershowitz. he is the author of "taking the stand: my life in the law" let's talk about this. obviously, a deeply controversial issue. where do you stand here? what message does it send out? >> first of all it should not be a political or partisan issue. this is a national problem. i wish and i know many others wish we had never embarked on the process of negotiating with terrorists. it began many years ago when the germans who gave up prisoners and the british gave up prisoners and the french gave up prisoners. it encouraged terrorism. it made terrorism profitable. i wrote a book about terrorism and it works because the terrorists get their ways. the palestinians have more prominence than the kurds and tibetans because they have engaged in terrorism and brought themselves into international attention. i wish we hadn't gone down this line. but is it compelling when you have a particular prisoner, the

let's bring in tom foreman, he's been pursuing this story. >> yeah. this is just speculation.dlines by engaging in political fund-raising and partisan fights. whenever a big politico starts doing that in this town, people start asking what is she up to? >> well, hello, everyone. welcome. >> reporter: does the first laidlaid dy have eyes on elected office? listen to what she said at a white house event to a child's question. >> will you ever run for president? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: absolutely not. there you have it. no way. but now listen more carefully. seconds later, she says some people are good at politics. some people like politics. >> and for me, it's other stuff that is not being the president. right? so i probably won't run. >> reporter: and with that word, probably, she's left the door open to provocative headlines like this one from reuters. "is michelle running for the senate?" certainly she's looking like a campaigner, traveling, taking on republicans talking about policy. >> the last thing we can afford to do right now is play politics with our kids' heal

tom foreman is joining us. what kind of strikes are we talking about?ause there are various options out there. >> the president is talking about precise and effective strike. and that is really tricky. when you start talking about big things like f-18s and cruise missiles and b-1 bombers, you're talking about very robust delivers of force that normally go after very robust targets, things like air fields and command and control structures and supply lines. and there is no indication that's sthat isis has any of those things. even as they have them, we don't know where they are. the intelligence on the fwrougr about this group is very scattered. so what do you do with all this big power if you have no idea where to place it. >> what about gun ship, air to ground missiles. they could be effective if you have appropriate targets. albeit the terrorists have sort of gone into heavily populated areas. >> as you know from your experience, this is one of the key tactics of groups like this. when you start talking about a group like isis, it wants to be in popul

tom foreman has more. >> don, the video handover taking only minutes, but it is packed with information about bergdahl, the taliban and american forces. for starters, it is a scene setter. you see 18 taliban fighters with arms spread across the hillsides here in an anywhere identified on tape as eastern afghanistan. the coast province where the taliban has been long powerful. bergdahl is sitting in a truck, his head shaved, his uniform long gone. dispete concerns about his health, there are no visible signs of injury here. he blinks over and over again. at one time, he smiles briefly. it seems as if maybe he's not used to bright lights. that would make sense, because one of his captors tells him in here, don't come back, you won't get out alive again. we see the american troops used for this type of thing. undoubtedly special forces. folks we never see in action. they shake hands with their sworn enemy. one of them over here briefly puts his hand to his chest in a sign of respect. but then they quickly move to get bergdahl to the helicopter. he touches him in the back here. and then awa

tom foreman investigates. >> reporter: if every federal worker in the executive branch alone sent andas many e-mails as an average business user, that would be more than 326 million a day or 3,777 every second. that's a lot to keep track of. now not only the irs but also the epa is saying -- >> we may have some e-mails that we cannot produce that we should have kept. >> reporter: the irs boss says part of the problem is budget cuts that have made it hard to maintain the government's vast network of computers even though he admits this doesn't look good. >> it is suspicious. when we uncovered it, we pursued evidence to try to figure out what happened. we found a train of e-mails that the congress has had for some time that noted they worked extraordinarily hard to try to recover those e-mails. >> reporter: still listen to what the u.s. archivist said about losing those and not reporting it. >> they did not follow the law. >> reporter: this is a longstanding problem. back in 2008 citizens for responsibility and ethic in washington noticed that many agencies still print out documents, th

tom foreman explains. no one knows more about this hi-tech stuff than you.oes. let me get numbers rolling back here because to understand this problem, you have to talk about not just the words involved but also numbers. really big numbers. if every federal worker in the executive branch alone sent and received as many e-mails as an average business user, that would be more than 325 million a day or 3,777 every second. that's a lot to keep track of 37 and now not only the irs but also the epa is saying -- >> we may have some e-mails that we cannot produce that we should have kept. >> the irs boss says part of the problem is budget cuts have made it hard to improve or maintain the government's vast network of computers. >> since january 1 of this year, for example, over 2,000 irs employees have suffered hard drive crashes. >> still, listen to what the u.s. archivist says about losing those records and not reporting it. >> they did not follow the law. >> this is a long-standing problem. back in 2008, citizens for responsibility and ethics in washington noted t

tom foreman, thanks very much. former cia and fbi official. former commanding general of the u.s.rmy intelligence center. you think air strikes are more or less the best option in terms of a u.s. military option if there is one on the table. why? >> well, it is the best option right now. maliki's government has very few options. his military is collapsing. clearly the best units that he has are probably in the vicinity of baghdad. those units have to get engaged. you can't win defensively. in order to get any type of momentum to regain or try to establish momentum for the isf forces, you've got to be able to stop the isis in their tracks. you've got to be able to do that from the air and the united states. and some other coalition partners could achieve that. whether that's manned aircraft or drones. >> do the iraqis themselves have -- we've seen some aircraft -- >> sure. >> being used, but do they have large air assets? >> they have a capability, they sure do. sadly, the number one air force base is belad taken over by isis, that becomes a challenge. but in advance of that, i'm c

tom foreman takes a look. top? >> reporter: hey, anderson. at a map of iraq you can see that baghdad is more or less in the middle of the country and if you move into a map of baghdad and you look at the very heavily fortified green zone in the middle there, that's where you will find the u.s. embassy, protected on all sides by the green zone and on the southern edge by the tigris river. this was built in 2009 at a cost of about $750 million and it's about the size of an amusement park, or 60 football fields all put together and all the way around there are these various checkpoints to keep track of anybody trying to get any sort of access to it. plus this giant blast wall so that even if someone got close, any bomb would bethwarted by th itself. this is overseen by the ambassador steven beekroft who lives inside the compound. there are a half dozen apartments for various people and scores of offices handling visas to security to trade to agriculture. they work in buildings that are hardened against attack and this have bulletproof glass and

well i'm tom foreman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. believe it or not republicans and democrats in the house actually done something meaningful to curtail the runaway powers of the n.s.a. and america's domestic spying machine so is this new legislation doing enough to address domestic spying in america and will the senate and president obama even go along and republicans keep warning that the next nine eleven is only a matter of time if president obama keeps handing over terrorists and closes down guantanamo bay it turns out it might be a republican who's done the most the set america up for another devastating terrorist attack more on that it's too early to. play you need to know this we now know when the u.s. government thinks it's ok to kill an american citizen without a trial on monday the second circuit court of appeals released the memo used by the justice department to justify the assassination of anwar al. a lockie an american citizen who the obama administration says was an imminent threat to the united states and its citizens

our tom foreman takes a closer look. >> i don't believe it. why should anyone believe you? in that was, an apology. >> i don't think an apology is owed. >> reporter: amid the outrage and accusation, there he sat, he is he is veen /* serene as a saint. >> and making jokes. >> i didn't say that they would disappear. if you have a way for them to magically disappear, i would ask about it. >> trained in physics at duke and law at yale, he work ford anew york mayor, connecticut senator and deputy mayor of washington, d.c. during financial crisis. what he likes most, however, are seemingly lost causes. bringing the cup to the u.s. in '94 when most americans hadn't seen a match. and clinton with the y2k break down. >> quite frankly we asked for all the e-mails. >> you're going to get hundreds of thousands of pages. >> no, no. >> and now with the irs under heavy fire, once he again in the middle of the fray. >> to say this is the most corrupt irs in history, overlooks a lot of history. and there a classic problem which we are dealing with. >> he reacts to it as calm as asking about

john kaskey nen will join us but first, here's tom foreman. >> i don't believe it. >> why should anyone believe you? >> what i didn't hear in that was an apology. >> i don't think an apology is owed. >> amid the storm of congressional outrage and accusations, there he sat serene as a saint. irss commissioner john koskinen. >> if you have evidence of that, i'd be happy to see it. >> i asked a question. >> i answered it. >> throwing jabs and making jokes. >> i did not say i would provide you e-mails that disappeared. if you have maj calloway for me to do that, i'd be happy to know it. >> the white house could not have picked a bretter brawler. he was traned in law at yale. he worked for a connecticut senator and deputy mayor of washington, d.c. during a financial crisis. what he likes most, however, are seemingly lost causes. he helped bring the world cup to the u.s. in '94 when many americans had never watched a match. president clinton tacked him with saving the nation's computers from what was feared to be a y2k meltdown. >> i expect we will experience nos major national breakdowns. >>