tom freeman "the new york times" op-ed columnist and david frum, a senior fellow from the atlantic. what is the big take away from these two events, particularly the last one as i said, the synagogue, which just strikes me as a terrible, terrible sign. some kind of a canary in a coal mine. >> well, thanks for having me. the frame i look at all this goes back to a column i wrote a week before the election. i quoted one of my features who said we're living in an age of moral arousal. moral arousal is good thing when people are aroused against racism and anti-semitism and abuse by men to women in the workplace. it can easily lapse into moral outrage, and then you find yourself in a huge storm. and that's where we really are today. now, where does all this moral arousal come from, fareed? first it comes tech logically. we live in an age of social networks where anyone morally aroused on any issue can speak to the world. what these platforms also do, though, is they give comfort to racists and homophobes and anti-semites. because of these social networks vaik find nelo bigoted people. an

jonathan greenblatt, ceo of the anti-defamation lead, tom freeman, and david frum. tom, let me start with you. what is the big takeaway from these two events, particularly the last one as i said, the synagogue, which just strikes me as a terrible sign, some kind of a canary in a coal mine. >> thanks for having me. for me, it goes back to a column i wrote a week before the election. i quoted one of my teachers who said, we're living in an age of moral arousal. moral arousal is a good thing, when it's racism and anti-semitism and abuse by men to women in the workplace. but when there's no governor on this moral arousal, it can lapse into moral outrage. then you find yourself in a huge storm. that's where we really are today. where does all this moral arousal come from? we live in the age now of social networks where anyone who is morally aroused can have a mega phone and express that to the world. we saw that the people were using these platforms, what these platforms also do is give comfort to racists and bigoted people. bigoted people have never had it more comfortab

tom freeman essentially wrote a love letter to him. he is this amazing reformer. >> nauseating. >> the american elite. everyone from the rock is having dinner with him and tweeting about him. >> yep. >> he is given this sort of hero's welcome. this is the t guy that is going to remake saudi arabia. the trump administration has clearly backed him four square. this is part of what appears to be a real crackdown he has been undertaking even before this ghastly murder that he is now accused of overseeing. >> it's not just -- as you say, this is going on. he rounded up women's rights activists and detained them. he rounded up scholar, clerics, businessmen, economists. he rounded up his own fellow prince and basically did a shakedown, extorted them for money, billions of dollars. and he comes to the u.s., as you say. and you have jeff besos, laughing around and taking pictures with him. the silicon valley chiefs and dwayne "the rock" johnson and michael bloomberg all suck up to him. and i've not heard a word from any of the liberals, forget

tom freeman, some of the most prominent anchors here in this country and around the world.e a connection in terms of the tone he's set and the connective tissue that some of the world's most brutal autocrats might feel with him? >> absolutely. look, as americans, we've long been proud since the days of the cold war that our president, the american president, is known as the leader of the free world. he's a source of inspiration and object of emulation the world over. and donald trump has continued to play that role, but unfortunately, he's done that for, as you said, some of the most despotic rulers the world over. like vladimir putin, sisi of egypt, duterte of the philippines, urbon of hungary. the chinese communist party, the ministry of foreign affairs in russia. uti using this term "fake news," appropriating it. he has imported some of these practices he's seen from despots. they've appropriated his own language and his mannerisms. and in a sense he has given them license. he has given them license to not only use this language by what he has said but it's also what he

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