congresswoman cheney is the subject of the latest column by my next guest, "new york times" columnist tom friedmanof numerous books, including "the world is flat." tom, i want to speak about your column in a moment but first, i know you have spoken at length with congresswoman liz cheney. what do you make of what we just heard, her praising general milley for his loyalty to the constitution today and -- and chastising very directly her republican colleagues? >> she is just doubling down on the principled stand that she's taken. you know, anderson, congresswoman cheney and i probably disagree about 90% of policies. but we agree 100% on what moment we're in right now. we're in a gigantic -- an unprecedented constitutional crisis. we have a party whose loyalty is to a cult figure, donald trump, and not to the constitution. and liz cheney has understood that, which is why she has basically said i will risk my seat. i will risk the ability to promote the policies i believe in. in wyoming, i will take a chance even with my life to uphold the constitution. to call out this president for his undermining o

in a moment, "new york times" columnist tom friedman joins me who recently spoke with the wyoming republican>>> and later the january 6th committee cheney also sits on issued in you subpoenas today. we will have the names and details of that ahead. talking about mental health it's not a sign of weakness, but really a sign of strength. people sometimes don't want to talk about mental health, they don't want to talk about problems that they might have that aren't physical, but those problems are just as real. i have this disease you know, and it makes it awkward that i have to explain myself or prove myself in certain situations. a lot of times i'm not feeling good or you know not having a good day, but through the music i'm able to have a good day by expressing something that feels good to me that i can pass onto others. one of my favorite phrases to share with not only my kids but anybody is never compare your insides to someone else's outsides. we are creating conversation we are raising awareness and we're kicking the hell out of this stigma saying get away from the people we love the most

tom friedman, one of the world leading public health experts. dr. freedom is the former director of the centers for disease control. and prevention is now the ceo of a 5 year initiative called resolve to save lives. dr. freedom, thanks so much for joining us today. let me ask you to just sort of help our viewers to understand from your perspective, given where we were, you know, 18 months ago, plus what has gone really well in this effort against this pandemic. and what are the parts that we really need to focus on that have not gone well? and i want you to include not just america, but the rest of the world. well, one thing that's gone well is that we've learned a lot more about the virus and you know, the old saying know your enemy, the virus is the enemy here, and the more we understand it, the better we can fight it. we also have remarkably effective vaccines, especially the m r n a vaccines, but several of the other vaccines as well. this is a stunning success of science. on the other hand, we have real opposition to implementing the 2 most

this tom friedman wrote this under the headline do democrats have the courage of liz cheney?cheney is willing to risk everything, then democrats must rides to this moment and forge the majorities needed in the senate and house to pass the infrastructure bill now scheduled for a thursday volt in the house. a voting rights bill and as much of the build back better legislation has moderates and progressives can agree on, stewart, is that a real world prospect, given your knowledge of the current scene? >> well, i have a lot of confidence in this biden administration. the people around him are incredibly solvent, incredibly experienced, stable. i think that they understand how the process works and this is actually a place where i would be optimistic. i think the biden white house will be able to put together this deal. my plea to democrats would be to just understand what is at stake here. the problem kingsessing george had was he couldn't imagine a creation of an american democracy and we suffer from the same problem. we can't imagine the ending of american democracy. but it ca

this tom friedman wrote this in the new york times. >> do democrats have the work of the, cheney cheneyy to risk everything to stop, trump than democrats both moderate roots and progressive must rise to this moment to forge the majority is needed to the senate and the house to pass the bipartisan bill. a voting rights bill and as much as the build back better legislation as moderate and progressives can agree on. stewart is that a real word prospect giving your knowledge of the currency? >> well i have a lot of confidence in this biden administration. the people around him are incredibly solid, incredibly experienced unstable. smart people. and i think that they understand how the process works, and this is actually a place where i would be optimistic. i think that biden will be able to put together to steal. i think my plea to democrat is to understand what is at stake here. the problem king george has is that he couldn't imagine the creation of the american democracy, and we suffer from the same problem, we can imagine the ending of the american democracy. but it can happen. and we ha

you, sir, had the pleasure to be name-checked by tom friedman in the "new york times".et me read you a passage. the leader of the centrist democrats in the house and jayapal have the guts to stop issuing all or nothing ultimatums and instead given each other iron-lad assurances that they will do something hard? do you? >> 100%. i haven't seen tom's story yet. but i agree on this. we have got to get this done. it starts this week with the bipartisan infrastructure plan, which you know is all about roads, bridges, tunnels, having us fight climate change. it passed out of the senate. it's been sitting in the house waiting for action. when it came out, it had 69 senators. it is critical to the president's agenda. we are pushing to get it to the floor. nancy pelosi said she will bring it to the floor. she is working hard to get the votes. we all are. >> that is not the hard part, though, congressman. the hard part is figuring out where you can agree on the domestic spending plan. . >> right. what i was about to say, we're at the same time working on the reconciliation plan a

we'll get there together. ♪ >>> it's been 20 years since the september 11 attacks tom friedman is the author of the book, from beirut to freedom i know you were in israel when this all came out. you have a lot of thoughts about what happened here 20 years later. what are you thinking? >> i was in israel when this happened i happened to be reporting on the situation in the west bank i was in the office of the presidential university when the first planes hit i sat down the next morning with israeli experts about what they had learned about suicide bombing. the point they made was simple they said, you know, our information is really good but their ultimate conclusion is that none of this stops unless the village says no. the internal palestine society is the greatest thing. when they say this is murder and not martyrdom. we started to do state building in the middle east in order to change the context in that part of the world and hopefully create a village with more pluralism, religious pluralism, gender pluralism so they could fight the ideas on their own we've paid the price for tha

even as stigler and friedman recognized tom's talent, he was still a marxist at the time.hey were just someone who saw he was going places, so they went out of their way to make sure. susan: we have a clip about -- [video clip] >> you were a marxist that one, and her life. thomas: it's not that unusual. most leading conservative thinkers of our time did not start off as conservative, you had a couple like bill buckley. milton friedman was a liberal in tcm. ronald reagan was so far left that one the fbi was following him. >> what was your wake up? thomas: fax. -- facts. susan: he was awarded his degree in 1968. where was he intellectually during that period? jason: sowell an initial supporter of the civil rights movement. he was at night school when brown v. board of education came down and he supported, wrote about how -- he also supported the civil rights act of 1964 and voting rights act of 1965. but what sowell always cautioned was these accomplishments, while making the country more just and uploading them, he says they are not going to be enough to solve the problems