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i'll read you what tom friedman wrote this weekend at "the new york times." said, israel is about to make a terrible mistake. quote, i believe if israel rushes adlong into gaza now to destroy hamas, and does so without expressing a clear commitment to seek a two-state solution with the palestinian authority and end jewish settlements in the west bank, it'll be making a grave mistake that will be devastating for israeli interests and american interests. it could trigger a global conflagration and expose the pro-american alliance structure that the united states has built in the region since henry kissinger engineered yom kippur. it is about the right way, the way that doesn't play into the hands of hamas, iran, and russia. otherwise, what began as a hamas onslaught against isrl has the potential to trigger a middle east war with every great power and regional power having a hand in it, which would also make it very difficult to stop once it is started. peggy noonan also writing this weekend for "the wall street journal," talked about how she, too, said, i fear

. >> tom friedman, thank you. >>> and thanks for being part of my program this week. and i will see you next week.

. >> laura: tom friedman says it is disgusting one of the most deplorable chapters in our nations historyer offensive again? >> every day you get these reports how everything is going extremely well. but look at the map after one year you see almost no change in the amount of land and how many lives people saw the brutality of what happened war is brutal and we should think how we could make it is we don't have half a million casualties. >> laura: talk about academia you can see where it forms on college campuses but a harvard university larry summers is shocked which i am surprised he raise the point the delayed harvard leadership statement fails to meet the needs of the moment and the statement paled in comparison to statements on ukraine and george floyd he was shame to finally release a statement about the attacks in israel but the left was very united in the summer of love. >> yes. larry summers is brilliant and realistic but is not surprising a generation ago these institutions or if you go to harvard the big dining hall is dedicated those who died in the civil war is a basic love o

. >> "the new york times" columnist, tom friedman, a man i know and you know, obviously, he wrote inw york times" that israel's security climate is weakened -- weakened by its security provision. let me read a line from the article, israel was taken to the brink of civil war for an ideological flight of fancy, and they may have stirred their boldness. what's your reaction to those words? >> that on my national broadcast to the nation in february 12th, i already said that i saw in intelligence reports how our enemies are celebrating the internal strive in israel and that clearly, our enemies watched the internal situation in israel, but let me make it absolutely clear, there's no reason directly or indirectly in any way that that is the reason they waged war in israel any this terror attack and this vulture terror attack comes from an ideology of hate and it is just like isis and therefore, that's the way we need to look at it and not now review what led to it, what was the circumstances. we are now fighting to change reality and after that, we will definitely have soul-searching and

like tom friedman from the "new york times" said to me the other day, the people really occupying theestinians in gaza are hamas, and what you have just raised is a critical point because, you know, obliterating, eradicating, approving, dismantling, are all fancy sounding names for something or a military operation, rather, that will require a prolonged and expansive israeli ground operation. no one, like you said, no one is going to hit the top leadership or top echelon of layers of hamas, because they are in bunkers. some as you correctly indicated, may not be in gaza. they fled, they always flee, and leave the innocent palestinians to suffer the consequences of their criminal acts. so i honestly, i wish i had a better, more precise answer for you, katy. it really depends if there is a ground operation, and if there is a ground operation how extensive, and if it is expensive, for how long, and these are critical conditions for which i'm sorry, i just don't have answers. >> i know there's going to be a lot of questions about how it got to this point, and whether decisions leading up

. >> tom friedman was warning today in "the new york times" that israel should be concerned about whatappens after the day after -- the day after the strikes. what happens if you decapitate hamas, what replaces hamas could be worse. it's similar to what happened to the u.s. after the iraq invasion when we disbanded the bath army and didn't realize that mistake led to ten years of civil war. >> i understand that, and as always, we can make different assessments of what can happen in which contingency and the people get paid to do that sort of thinking, and we have very effective and good people like that in our national security structure, but let's look at the facts. for years people have been saying, you know, hamas is in control of gaza. they rule over 2.3 million people. that forces them to be more responsible. that forces them to be more pragmatic. that forces them eventually to become more moderate. the realities of governing will make them more moderate. and many people believe that, including israelis. but i think what we saw on saturday was that hamas is stuck in its extremist

york times" foreign affairs opinion columnist and three-time recipient of the pulitzer prize, tom friedman context around the challenges ahead. you've been covering this conflict for more than 50 years, almost 50 years, and you have never seen anything like this. you have made that very clear in your piece in "the new york times". and two other points that you made, benjamin netanyahu's side of the bargain is that he has to reconnect himself with liberal israel, so the world sees this not as a religious war, but a war between the front line of democracy and the front line of theocracy. i want to hear about the challenges with that given the divisions he's facing there. and also, you say, for israel to do what is most in its interests, not those of hamas and iran, will likely require some very tough love between biden and netanyahu. i would like to hear more about that, as well. well, mika, thank you for having me. this is, for me, i've covered the middle east for 50 years. i've seen israelis and palestinians do terrible things to each other. but it's usually, it's palestinians suicide bomb

being killed in gaza during a land invasion, then that could set back the israeli cause, echoing tom friedman's column. president biden himself saying, listen, are you really ready? are these achievable aims? the message from the americans and the europeans at the moment, be careful, as you plan your next steps. >> right. quick follow-up on that, katty. it seems that, obviously, europeans have always been further away from the israeli position than americans have taken. that said, post isis, isis attacks in paris and what's happened in the uk, i find it fascinating that you actually have rishi sunak, the british prime minister, actually pushing hard to stop pro hamas demonstrations in london that are chanting, "jihad." things that, you know, we've all seen. i know you've seen when you're in london before, but it seems to me that at least that government is moving a bit more aggressively toward the israeli position. >> yeah, and the brits have moved naval assets into the region, as well, so they're very much in lock step. the government is very much in lock stop. there is some disconnect between

if israel does go with a full-scale invasion, they should follow tom's friedman's -- thomas friedman's advice and be much more deliberative to document these atrocities, to do what they can on the world stage and align with the their countries they are at peace with. egypt played a big role in this instance gaza has a border with egypt. host: what role do you see egypt playing in this? caller: egypt has the border with gaza. the weapons hamas is using i am sure came through the border. i am not sure how else they would have gotten the -- gotten them. i think they play a role. we try to work with them, but if israel uses -- if egypt is not aligned with israel on this, that could be a major problem for israel. host: let's go to kelly in albuquerque, new mexico. caller: this whole thing is so upsetting, i feel so sad about it. i am seeing that israel has a choice. people are thinking you cannot negotiate with terrorists, but you do for hostages. you don't for alliances. they have other assets sitting there, just waiting like sitting ducks out of gaza. hamas is so evil, they are in the tun

i agree with tom friedman.icians will lead to the quality of your politics. this is netanyahu's war because he has a keep netanyahu in power government instead of a government that is qualified and has ills. his defense minister is someone the army would not take 20 years ago. that is the kind of government we will get if trump gets back in power because his loyalty test would be all that matters. host: running short on time. you've been watching members of the republican conference enter that meeting today where they are expected to debate once more who will lead the party and who will lead the house. you just saw the interim speaker pro tem mchenry enter that room and other republicans gathered in the hallway. cannot see exactly who is cackling with reporters down the hallway. we will let you keep watching. this is sheila in new jersey, republican. caller: i am listening to the callers. if president trump was still president, this would not be going on. he talked about law and order. there is no law and order

merkley: i know you're not specifically responding to from friedman's quote, are you? mr. lew: tom is a friend of mine and before i agree or disagree i'd have to read it. sen. merkley: it's iran's goal to keep israel enmeshed in the west bank and the most fevered dream of gaza reflects a lot of intelligence and experience and information over time. he then lays out that if there is a ground offensive into israel, it could have numerous impacts, including blowing up the abraham accords, destabilizing egypt and jordan as key allies, making normalization of relations between israel and saudi arabia impossible and notes these would be huge strategic setbacks both for the united states and for israel. do you agree with him? mr. lew: senator, i think the task of any nation to defend its people forces leaders to make very hard decisions. i can't sit here today and say i know with precision what it is that will defend the state of israel and people of israel. i believe the government of israel will try to make those decisions in a way that will be successful but not lead to the long term e

tom friedman said it even better last week when he said, hamas has not only taken israelis hostage, it's taken gaza civilians hostage as well. the passions and pain from these events are not limited to the middle east. they are manifest all over our nation, even in ni state of illinois -- my state of illinois. ten days ago, a 6-year-old palestinian american was murdered in a suburb of chicago, in a mindless, heartbreaking act. almost every hour of every day, there's been a photograph of this beautiful little boy in a happy birthday hat standing, smiling, looking at the camera. it's hard to imagine that he answered his door and simply because he was of palestinian dissent, he was attacked by a crazed man, who killed him and then attempted to kill his mother. i was glad president biden mentioned wadea last week in his address to the nation. i have that family in my thoughts and prayers as they grieve their little boy and mother. there's also fears of a bomb threat in a insin -- in a synagogue outside chicago. president biden was eloquent in reminding us that such hate must stop and we are