tom fuentes, harry and mary ellen o'toole.we heard from deb, if the shooter was talking about intentions online and encouraged by people and giving tactical advice by people, what does that say about him and what does it say about those people? >> well, it's pretty stunning if that ends up being the case. for him to talk about it makes sense because in almost every case we've seen in the past, there is what we call leaking, which the offender tells somebody ahead of time what they will do. that was social media and how they announce what they will do. leaking i would expect in this case. if these other people were watching this and encouraging this, then we have a real issue with people being numb to these warning signs because this is exactly the behavior that we identified almost 15 years a go, behavior reported on. it really nullifise see something say something. that's more of a failure on part of the human beings watching that. >> deb reported, mary ellen, this person was apparently very angry at women. it's notable this

tom fuentes, you just heard that latest indication that online this shooter was apparently discussing what he planned on doing the next day. you would think somebody who saw those kinds of social media postings would go to law enforcement and report what's going on. >> you would think so, wolf. but we're going to want to hear from these people whether they took it seriously or not. maybe they thought he was just ranting and raving and, yeah, yeah, go ahead. like sometimes people say i want to jump off the building and they say, yeah, go ahead. so we don't know how seriously it seemed to them he was actually going to go do it. >> what do you think, arthur? >> i think unfortunately in this day and age, you know, somebody's got to report these types of communications. it seems like we're talking about this in hindsight. and if this individual was chatting the way he was chatting on this website, then obviously somebody's got to say something. somebody put up an fbi tip line if that's confirmed then somebody should have come forward to law enforcement and said, hey, this individual is tal

. >> with me now cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes. here. >> thank you, poppy. >> you called president obama mourner in chief. you said that with wolf blitzer, my colleague. here's what you said. >> it is great to come out and be so sympathetic and be the mourner in chief as he is after the events. but then when that settles, leave. tell us what you want. tell us where we should go. tell us what the american people think will be a reasonable plan to address this kind of violence. >> i know you want to hear what the president thinks. what do you think? what is the best plan? >> well, i think if nothing, let's study and find the best plan. members of congress are easy to take junkets over the world. put it together, go to australia and the european countries that passed laws that have reasonable restrictions on the ownership of firearms or the checking of people before they can purchase the firearm. see why it has been successful in those countries. and then come back and try to have a reasonable discussion to come up with the solution.

good point that pamela brown, tom fuentes makes, a lot of information out there in this day of the internet and social media, information you want to be precise and don't want to report on until you have it nailed down. >> that's true but would apply to other people in this chat room with him and some of the other listeners and participants in social media. they are not positive enough to take a step and may not, either. they are assuming in a way the people they are communicating with, so now they are going back and forth and the internet era no problem and rant and rave. >> would they be legally in trouble if they had some sort of chat with this killer the night before and they read or heard what he was planning on doing but didn't do anything about it? >> there is exposure there particularly if they knew his name and particularly if he spoke specifics. they are certainly going to look at that. they have the to. that's leakage. it happens before these cases, this could have been prevented. >> you think this could have been prevented, dan? >> yeah, i think it could have been prevented but

tom fuentes, former assistant director of the fbi.enforcement are doing right now, we also know the fact they are involved here as well. the fact we know canines are there talking about using them to sniff out explosives, you have to be thinking about a vehicle this individual would have gotten in? searching the vehicle, where else will they be looking? >> you would have the possibility of the person could have taken a campus bus to get there or live close enough to be in walking distance. obviously, they would want to try to find a vehicle if they could and determine if there's anymore contraband, explosives, firearms, ammunition in that vehicle. as has been mentioned, the search of the person's residence if they have him identified to try to determine where e he lived and to render that place safe because that could be booby trapped, like the apartment in aurora, colorado, after that shooting. you have that concern as well. and then our other people involved in this. we heard about them looking on social media. that's depending if t

ron hoska, former assistant director of the fbi and tom fuentes and arthur roderick.ou. the fact of the shooting took place in classrooms at snyder hall and science room, you think that might be significant? >> yeah. it just appears to me that based on that that the individual knew where he was going, knew what he was looking for and actually knew that these rooms were going to be occupied at that period of time. it's also interesting that we've heard about six or seven people come on that were actually on the campus at the time and nobody heard any gunshots. >> what does that say to you? >> possibly a suppresser being used on the weapon itself. i think we have heard that it was a long rifle. so that has a very loud report. any type of long rifle has a loud report. so not to hear that in adjacent rooms or adjacent buildings is pretty unusual. >> tom fuentes, what strikes you so far of all the information we've heard out of oregon about this tragedy. >> well, i think so far that we've heard nothing about the condition of the shooter, is he dead, is he not? i don't expe

tom fuentes and joey jackson are with us. facts of the case and no need for us to rehash. i want to go, specifically, a quote from a report to you, first, tom, in which they say that officer loehmann's saying it was reasonable and the response to that perceived threat was as well. your response to that. >> i think the difficulty here, victor, is hard to argue what an officer might believe when he gets there. the video looks bad. in hindsight, we know it was not a real gun and he was 12 years old. the victim tamir was 12 years old but not what the officers know when they arrive at the scene. they are getting dispatch that the dispatcher didn't rely all of the information that was in the call to them. and so the officer, all they know is they have a subject with a gun and when they arrive, it appears that is true, that they have a subject with a gun. and, you know, when someone reaches in and someone draws a gun, there's not a lot of time for detailed assessment. these are split-second decisions and i think that that's what is

. >> joining me now to talk about it, cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, thanks for being withe, tom. >> tom, if you can hear me, let's talk about why you think is happening. you heard one of the recruits in the piece and one of the officers in charge of recruiting say some of the young folks are asking him why should we be police officers? what's your take? >> well, i think it is the concern that, you know, there's a divide between minority communities. and police at large. the law enforcement community. and i think that, you know, hearing the president's remarks kind of i found ridiculous, frankly. i was at the director's speech in chicago last week. the black lives matter movement. and people for the law enforcement lives matters. need to listen to the minority community. he went right down the middle saying both sides need to talk and need to try to resolve the issues that are plaguing law enforcement and law enforcement in the communities. so, he wasn't taking sides. he wasn't criticizing. he wasn't cherry picking data, that data came from people who they're talking to. ma

law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes.ant to talk about the report in the new york daily news report that says the mother had been stockpiling weapons. could she, in some capacity, face charges here if it is found to be true, that the mother was stockpiling weapons? >> christi, on that positive exactly of what they could do with her, based on we don't know her knowledge of him taking those guns out that day or his intentions to do that. if she purchased the weapons legally, which we have heard from the beginning they were purchased legally, then it's just a question of, you know, whether she is complicit in this attack or not. i have to question her mental condition. you know, we are talking about this individual getting 14 weapons and then doing an attack, taking four of them with him that day -- or six at the scene, but four into the school. what about her? you know? anybody checking on her and whether she is getting more weapons? is there any reason she can't purchase more? even if the police confiscated all of the weap

now, to discuss what we have just heard, we have our experts tom fuentes, former fbi director, and peopleg all over the world are saying, this is a number of weapons for one individual. >> and there is no question about the number of weapons, but he has legal right to them, and so we don't have enough information about the number of weapons, and where they were purchased, and the members of the family. >> and it is amazing that he had 14 weapons an brought six of them to the campus to start killing people randomly and asking them if they were christians for example, and then executing them. but i will take it that you are not that surprised, matt, and tell me what your reaction? >> well, while it is troublesome that he had so many weapon, and he had gotten some from family member, and where do you draw the line of how many weapons a person can buy, and is he hunting or how to get them on the campus, and then just randomly shooting people. this is what i call the epitome of the lone wolf sort of case when you look at the background and say, how come nobody knew about this guy, and nobody k

let's talk about what's going on with our law enforcement analyst tom fuentes, former fbi assistant directorrcement analyst art roderick, former u.s. marshals assistant director, and dr. lisa van susteren. lisa, investigators say they found some writings for this individual, this killer. they include they say ramblings about hatred towards blacks, being unable to make relationships that he sought, apparently family sought treatment for mental problems he had, apparently wasn't getting much treatment if any treatment. that doesn't necessarily make someone a killer. >> well, no, absolutely not. and i mean this is the same profile we hear every single time. a loner, doesn't get along with people, doesn't have a girlfriend. all of this is what we hear over and over again. the main issue here is not to think of it so much as mental illness. we know what that is. that's bipolar, schizophrenia, major depression, that sometimes have a little bit of violence thrown in. what we have here is an entity all of its own. this is violence. this is a category of its own. and then there may be a little depres

former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and former assistant fbi director, tom fuenteswe don't know what happened before this video emerged, wis our affiliate and state newspaper in south carolina are both reporting that this disturbing video shows what we see here, an intense confrontation between a female high school student, one of the school's resource officers. and as we said with the former commissioner, ray kelly, very disturbing. is there ever an excuse for someone like this, a resource officer, slamming in young girl's head to the floor? >> well, i don't know, wolf, if there's an excuse for slamming. but what happens is that, you know, this officer -- i don't know if this resource officer is a fully trained police officer or basically a glorified security guard. the person is supposed to be be removed from the classroom and doesn't want to be rehe mohe mo and doesn't comply. we're assuming that's what leads up to the violence. at some point, if the police officer has to put his hands on that person, it's not fwi igoin go well. the lack of compliance accelerates

what's going on from our experts, our law enforcement analyst, the former fbi assistant director tom fuenteslegal analyst jeffrey toobin is a former federal prosecutor. tom, if it's true this correlation that brian just reported on, the nra seems to have an enormous amount of political clout here in washington on the law. what's going on? >> well, i think the first question is whether it's true or not, wolf. but the second question is that there are other factors, environmental factors. why is people in alaska want to commit suicide? are they isolated with the cold weather and get cabin fever and that causes it? compared to other states that are warmer in climate. i mean, there's a lot of causal factors and environmental factors, cultural factors. they all need to be analyzed. i'm not saying that the data's wrong. i'm just saying we need to analyze what's actually at the root cause. >> you spent your whole career in law enforcement. do you believe the greater the control on the availability of guns the better off the public is as far as gun violence is concerned? >> yes. yeah. i personally b

joining me now cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi director tom fuentes.ther for color of change d change.org why did he say that point about the data. >> i think he's trying to as fair and down the middle as he he could be. he's saying that members of the black lives matter movement need to talk to the police. and members of the police and the law enforcement community need to talk to the members of the black lives matter movement. that both sides need to communicate. i was at the speech and i thought that, you know, it was fair-minded. and he did say there wasn't enough data to support it. he said it was his theory paced on talking to many executives in law enforcement and all the way down to street police officers. i think he's trying to be as fair as possible in saying both sides need to arc the lines back together and talk and try to solve the problems in these communities experiencing the spike in homicides. >> still rashad there are incidents that kind of prove there is a ferguson effect. example, a beirmingham cop was pistol whipped because he hesi

let's bring in our cnn law enforcement analyst, tom fuentes, jeffrey toobin, and dr.isa van susteren, psychiatrist. are there resources available to paef parents? assume they believe something is wrong with an adult child and weapons around, what can they do? >> not a lot, frankly, unless they're sophisticated and have a lot of money typically. sometimes social services are there for them. but oftentimes these are not available to them. and frankly, the real question is, though they may be there, try getting people in to actually take those services seriously and benefit them. that's the real crux of the issue. >> are there legal ways to deal with this, tom? because it's clearly a problem. we haven't just seen it in oregon but elsewhere as well. >> we have had so many parents complain how difficult it is to get help with a child but once a child becomes an adult, there's little, if anything, they can do. they can't access medical records they can't have them committed. they can't make them take their medicati medication if they're assigned to it. second issue, leave 1

former federal prosecutor along with cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director tom fuentes as you know when the fbi starts an investigation you don't know where it's going to wind up. how damaging could these new details potentially be? >> well they're certainly damaging to a certain extent because, you know just the story moving forward in a small way is just one more day when it's not behind hillary clinton. i think one of the things this illustrates though is people say, well, why can't she put it behind her? it's out of her hands now. there are investigations going on. and this is the real problem for her is that even though she has tried, it seems, to get all the e-mails out there and tell the whole story, the e-mails are still being declassified. the investigation is still going on. and she just can't control it. >> take us inside tom, the fbi. you spent decades serving in the fbi. what's going on there right now as far as this e-mail investigation is concerned? >> well first of all they're trying to get their hands on all of the e-mails and recover whatever was on th

federal prosecutor and legal analyst sunny hostin and jeffrey toobin and cnn law enforcement analyst tom fuentes his officers are not afraid to go out and do their jobs. they are doing their jobs even though some of them might be concerned they go ahead and get videotaped doing something controversial that could be the end of their career. >> i think the problem in this case, wolf, it seems to demonstrate a lack of training or understanding how to deal with a situation. if you have an unruly person in a crowd, classroom, on the street, at a sporting event. you're taught to try to separate the person causing the trouble from the crowd because they will be showing off for the crowd. so in this case, i think he should have asked that administrator and teacher, asked the other students to step out in the hallway and have a talk with this student and find out what's going on and see if it could be deescalated peacefully and have the girl come out of the class peacefully without having to be wrestled out of the chair and wrestled across the room. >> she's a 16-year-old teenager. >> i know, it seems to