and tom fuentes who spent 30 years at the fbi, including a director, he himself was a police officer for six years before that. he's at morrison mcdaniel, a company that performs police testing. tom, i'll start with you, it's hard to envision any exculpatory facts, do you agree? >> i completely agree. i told you yesterday on the radio show, i thought this officer should have been arrested the very first day. because of the fact you have a nine-minute video of him sitting on his knee on his back with his knee on the neck. and yeah, we'll have the serology come back and whether or not the officer knew floyd before this incident. all of that is going to the strength of the incident. and many of these police altercations that result in the death of the subject we don't know because the subject is running away. the officer fires a gun. and shoots him in the back. or they're wrestling. or the subject is not under control. in this case, he's completely under control. and whatever he had done leading to the arrest, the incident should be over. that subject floyd should have been transported t