gary cohn dan gilbert -- tom: major shot -- major shout out to stephanie rule.: on the bloomberg surveillance desk, there is one winner. that is one, thomas arer keene. i do not know if embarrassing is the right word. tom: here is what i did. it has a lot to do with investment theory. do not lose games. the way to not lose games is to pick the seeds. i have a couple wildcards but the goal is to go with it and not fall behind, just like investment. the cool thing which i am not qualified to talk about, when do you shift to actually choosing who will win? visit the final four? the final eight? the final 16? brendan: a basketball a change traded -- exchange traded fund. tom: the seeds are smarter than i am so ago with the seeds. evan williams a bloomberg sports is really on this. he was done after three games. brendan: what is your strategy? neil: i don't pick the bracket. i went to a division iii school. tom: betty lou doing quite well. -- betty liu doing quite well. a gemini and mike bloomberg is behind me. -- a gentleman named mike bloomberg is behind me. should