my last thing is that i want to personally commend tom hart, his staff, and tom hart for the work that he did on this meeting that we had out there. i was there and commissioner lee were there. and the professionalism, the thoroughness and dealing with the public, astounding. i really want to commend you for that work. you did an outstanding job. commissioner sullivan: while we're commending. i want to also commend you for taking our suggestion which i think actually came from bo, in a prior meeting, to go out and talk to the golf community and our experts out there which you did with john. >> right. he was very, very helpful. john attended the public meeting as well. john's an avid san francisco golfer and he really cares about golf. i would like to -- since you brought up the maintenance issue, that's been brought up a couple times, because they've been sitting here so diligently and patiently through this entire thing. as you know, on -- ana alvarez is in charge of the overall supervision and maintenance crew of the golf course. but steve castille is the superintendent of the golf c