hugh hewitt, christen welker and tom brokaw. >> i didn't want to be the kind of special -- isn't thatl? i am -- >> i prefer -- >> i'm unqualified in terms of being senior. >> i prefer grand puba as the official title for you. anyway, let me put up headlines some conservative news organizations, trump lost the shutdown, trump caves, trump blinks. in usa today, this is the weakest moment of president trump's tenure in office. nan nancy pelosi looks like the commander in chief of donald trump. hugh, you have been hearing from the base, i'm sure. how bad is this for the president? >> not that bad. this is very premature. tom and i will remember that joe frazier won his first fight with ali and lost the next two. we will remember that they went 41 out of the scheduled 42 rounds. this is the first round of a 42-round fight. i point out that the president's approval rating is now higher than ronald reagan's was at this time in the presidency. i looked at your word cloud. it says, sad, no compromise. what i heard from your guests is there the potential to go big and solve not just daca but ev