tom holliman the former acting director i.c.e. joins me. they want to get rid of you at a time when we are look at these care vans. as martha mcally rightly point out, a lot of these caravans are coming over the border every day in smaller groups. they want to get rid of i.c.e. what does that mean for the safety of american citizens. >> it's a continuation of open borders. i.c.e. arrests child predators and do terrorist investigation and drug trafficking investigation. we are the second largest in the joint terrorism task force. we do a lot to keep this country safe. the immigration part of it is part of their open borders agenda. if there is no i.c.e. in the use united states, and you get past border patrol, no one is looking for you. it's a continuation of the same open borders agenda democrats have had. trish: i looked through an i.c.e. report. if you have go through, there were so many people in there that had been arrested for crimes. in some cases violent crimes. then it came to whether they ever went to trial. they never did. they ne