kimberly: tom, you got the last word. mr. jawetz: we did a study on number of months ago about what the economic impact would be, movement removing -- removing 7 million workers. of trillions a hit of dollars. when it is a question of what we can afford to do, the economy cannot afford to move 7 million productive members of the workforce from the country. we cannot afford to do that. wetz and: tom ja jessica vaughan, thank you both for joining us today for this discussion. ♪ >> the presidential inauguration of donald trump is friday, january 20th. c-span will have live coverage of all the days events and ceremonies. watch live on c-span and c-span.org, and listen live on the three c-span radio app. >> c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1970 nine, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable public television service. it is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. >> joining us from austin, texas julian aguilar, talking about immigration policy and how it affects border states. thank you for joinin

our guest jessica vaughn for the center of immigration studies and tom jawetz for the center for american progress and tribune reporter julian aguilar on how immigration ♪olicy affects border states. host: good morning. it's thursday, december 29, 2016. the headline on today's "washington journal" focus on the war of words between john kerry and the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, over who's to blame for the dwindling prospects of a two state middle east peace deal. couldary kerry, in what be his last major address before leaving office, accuse the prime minister and other israeli officials of sabotaging peace efforts by refusing

let's give tom jawetz a chance to respond.lly know where to begin, but economists have found -- they have done through you on the literature on this. immigrants brought the in this country have a small but positive impact on american workers and the economy broadly, throughout the last few decades. they did find -- the caller think -- tohis, i the extent there are possibly some negative impacts, there are some small negative impact that may be found around immigrants, americans without a college degree. something, that is also a shooting percentage of the population. by and large, when immigrants come into the country, have a compliment tree impact, not a competitive impact on american workers. they take jobs that americans are not working. they slot into positions that may require more limited english proficiency, so that american workers who work alongside them can work in jobs that require more fluency or supervisory roles. host: i want to give jessica vaughan a chance to chime in. like any other policy come immigration pol

you are on with jessica vaughan and tom jawetz. republicans, i don't know for how many years, have been using immigration as a wedge issue. the most significant thing you could do to control immigration is at the employment level. they don't want to do that because they do not want to offend the business communities. when they talk about securing the border, that is a big lie. we are never going to have a border that will satisfy what they call secure. secure in their terms -- the only place in the one where we had that kind of security that they suggest they want is a place called north korea where you have the dmz zone, land mines, barb wire fences, soldiers waiting to shoot people. the republicans have had every opportunity to do reform, and when they had the opportunity, they never stepped up to do it. president obama tried to get them to do reform. for the lady to say what he did he asked for reform and they refused to act. host: let's give jessica vaughan a chance to respond. jessica: there are some truth to what the caller s

let's give tom jawetz a chance to respond. really know where to begin, but economists have found -- they have done through you on the literature on this. immigrants brought the in this country have a small but positive impact on american workers and the economy broadly, throughout the last few decades. they did find -- the caller think -- tohis, i the extent there are possibly some negative impacts, there are some small negative impact that may be found around immigrants, americans without a college degree. something, that is also a shooting percentage of the population. by and large, when immigrants come into the country, have a compliment tree impact, not a competitive impact on american workers. they take jobs that americans are not working. they slot into positions that may require more limited english proficiency, so that american workers who work alongside them can work in jobs that require more fluency or supervisory roles. host: i want to give jessica vaughan a chance to chime in. like any other policy come immigration