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it said tom jefferson, the lead author, they were unambiguous.re was no evidence that they , masks, make any difference. he told the journalist, full stop. hold on, what about the n-95. what about cloth ? it makes no difference, he says. they oppose mask mandates. they were convinced by nonrandomized studies, flawed observational studies. how do we get be on that finding of that particular review? >> there other studies that show at an individual level. we about the affect on the epidemic or the pandemic, as a whole, the data is less strong. we talk about it about an individual basis of someone protecting themselves or protecting themselves from spreading it to others, there is no doubt that there are many studies that show there is an advantage. when you look at the broad population level like the cochran study, the data is less firm with regards to the effect on the overall pandemic grid were not talking about that. were talking about individuals affect on their own safety. that is a bit different than the broad population level. >> dr. fauci,

its conclusions, said tom jefferson, the oxford epidemiologist, the lead author, were unambiguous, theret they, masks, make any difference. he told the journalist full stop. but, wait, hold on. what about the n-95 masks as opposed to the lower quality surgical or cloth masks? makes no difference, none of it, he said. what about the studies that initially persuaded policymakers to impose mask mandates? they were convinced by non randomized studies, flawed studies. how do we get beyond that finding of that particular review? >> yeah, but there are other studies, michael, that show at an individual level for individual, when you're talking about the effect on the epidemic or the pandemic as a whole, the data are less strong. when you talk about as an individual basis of someone protecting themselves or protecting themselves from spreading it to others, there's no doubt that there are many studies that show that there is an advantage. when you look at the broad population level like the cochran study, the data are less firm with regard to the effect on the overall pandemic. but we're not tal

jefferson, what does it has disney junior, was the assistant jen? it was absolutely disingenuous because as many people are on the table, there's lots of of, um, toms, that have been written about history from a very strange perspective. i a david barton who writes these histories that are not really histories about america and american religion. right. and so when john jefferson is writing to the church in danbury, connecticut, and saying, you know, there should be as well, there's no, we're not doing this right. they don't care that thomas jefferson had a koran. they don't care that that garage is sitting right down the street and the see at the smithsonian. what they care about is that god made this a special nation. and so when you talk about this nation being special, those documents can read them how you want to read them, because you don't read the same history that christian is teaching in her history class, or i'm teaching in american religion class. they're not reading that stuff. they are reading these kinds of made up homes. this is, this is a last elgin movement. and we have to think about christian nationalism as no spouse or massage b

with the revisions that go back to when jefferson was president, we will have a whole movable feast at 8:30 a.m. today. tom they are revised to the upside, then it feeds into the fears people have of two good data, that the economy is accelerating. this market is getting exhausting because it so hard to understand what's underpinning the move higher. people are trying to explain it but it feels like a self perpetuating kind of thing that goes beyond the data and the discussions to just momentum. tom: my data check -- bank rate 30 mure mortgage over 7.8%. that's a new level of a higher mortgage rate nudging toward 8%. tom: jonathan: the move we've seen in the bond market and treasuries, the bulk has been on the long end. if you are looking for steepness, you wouldn't have look for that. we thought the fed would be cutting interest rates and we thought we would be in recession but that's not where we are. to see the 10 year moved by as much as it has, it's a range of stories. look at the 10 year benchmark in japan, 75 basis points which was unthinkable a few months ago. tom: i will go to amanda lynum. that w