tom rodgers, the latest piece, jill stein blew it for hillary clinton. will they do the same for harris? let's start there, will she? >> well, all the focus went off third-party candidates when r.f.k. jrnton not making it to the white house. her margins, say, in michigan was 50,000 votes. and trump only won by 10,000 votes there. and the whole trump math is that, we know, trump has a ceiling. whether it's 47%, 48%. so, he needs to have somebody siphon off votes from the democratic candidate in order to win by plurality. and jill stein being on the ballot in all of the swing states, but nevada, is really in a position, when we know that -- >> yeah. >> -- that the states are coming down to 1%, 2% margin. >> hey, tom, just to talk about how it changed history, if not the century, from al gore taking vote. and jill stein taking points from hillary clinton in 2016, democrats would have won the electoral college -- well, they won the popular vote, seven of the last eight. but minus those two, like it third-party spoiler candidates, no republican would have been elected president since 1992. >> absolutely right. and it's not only the stein threat, but cornell west is on the ballot in wiscons