i spoke yesterday with the commission's chair, former new jersey governor tom kean, a republican, and vice-chair, former democratic representative lee hamilton of indiana. governor tom kean, representative lee hamilton, welcome to the "newshour". >> thank you. >> woodruff: you say in this report looking back over the ten years that the u.s. government has done a good job at fighting terrorism but you also say, tom kean, you warn the struggle against terrorism has entered a new and dangerous phase. what do you base that on? >> the threat is different but no less. it's not one central al quaida based in afghanistan the way it was, now it's many more countries than there were before, all working at the same time and working in different ways. bomb making techniques coming out of a group, i.s.i.s., a great danger, who are training terrorists who can come over anytime. so a lot going on. the american people can't be complacent. we need to protect oursselves as much now as we did on 9/11. >> woodruff: does that mean we are not safer today, lee hamilton? >> i think we're safer than prior to

tom kean and lee hamilton. 10 years ago, the 9/11 commission came together on a bipartisan basis to help the american people understand one of the darkest days in our history. and to provide recommendations about how to keep our country safer. the power of the report, your commitment to transparency, and your dedication to preventing future attacks brought our country together. from leadership of the director of national intelligence, to the analysis of the national counterterrorism center, to the coordination of our federal, state and local agencies your i rely on your recommendations every day. none of that would've been possible without the leadership provided by lee and tom. you come from different parts of our great country. tom is a proud citizen of the garden state, and lee is a quintessential hoosier who first made his name on the basketball court. but both of you embody what americans want in their public servants. integrity, humility, intelligence and a commitment to put the interests of our country before any partisan or personal agenda. from the statehouse trenches to the hal

and it was a grueling laborious job but tom kean and lee hamilton did it they led the nine eleven commission and put out the nearly thousand page nine eleven report ten years ago and commemoration of the report released kean and hamilton warn that the country to remain vigilant in spite of public weariness on the matter they released a statement that warns of unfinished business from terrorists among other things are to use meghan lopez has more from capitol hill. the house committee on homeland security held a hearing today on capitol hill to discuss the continuing threats facing the american public after nine eleven this hearing is almost ten years to the day after the nine eleven commission released its report with recommendations for protecting the american public to a former members of that committee testify today former new jersey governor thomas kean and former deputy attorney general jamie gorelick call for major reforms to the department of homeland security there are ninety two committees with jurisdiction over the department of homeland security that is dysfunctional and you mergi

i'm steve adubato we are in the statehouse in the senate chamber here with senate minority leader tom kean junior how you doing? good good how are you? good good you comfortable in this place? in the senate chamber? i love this place why? number one it's intimate you really get to know people and work with people in a real way if there's an issue you can just walk three seats away and you get a real statewide feel for the priorities and great people there great people it's interesting the kean family for those who know a little bit about new jersey history it's been around new jersey government foa long time give us people a sense your dad was governor for two terms mm hmm those years were...? they were 82 to 90 when he was actually serving he was elected in 81 for the election 89 uh he was in the assembly for ten years before that he was the speaker? he was yeah he was he was one of the early speakers and he was in with the speaker that was did back to back terms so he had two one year terms and one of the things that he did back then was he was the first one to have back to back terms in

tom kean and lee hamilton. 10 years ago the 9/11 commission. together on a bipartisan basis to help the american people understand one of the darkest days of our history. and to provide recommendations about how to keep our country safe. the power of your report, your commitment to transparency, and your dedication to preventing future attacks brought our country together. from the leadership of the director of the national intelligence to the analysis of the national counterterrorism center, the coronation of our federal, state, and local agencies, i rely on your recommendations every day. none of that would've been possible without the leadership provided by tom manley. tom's a proud citizen of the garden state and lee is a quintessential hoosier who first made his name on the basketball court. this is what americans woman their public servants, integrity, humility, intelligence, and commitment to what the interests of our country before partisan or personal interest. you have made your mark. i speak for some many americans when i say that ou

they are an extraordinary group of americans led by tom kean and i'm proud to be part of it. the report brakes down two parts. first part, the evolving threat. the second part talks about the policy challenges. the third part talks about the recommendations. a lot going into great detail. i'll hit the highlights in each of these areas. we begin by saying the government has done a good job, not a perfect job over the last ten years protecting us over terrorist attacks. we've experienced tragedies like ft. hood and the boston marathon bombings but not suffered anything at all like 9/11 and the magnitude of that attack. our military and intelligence forces have done great damage to the afghanistan and the core that attacked us, killing osama bin laden three years ago. these really are significant achievements. we are concerned, however, that attention is drifting to other matters, that the country may be suffering from a waning sense of urgency with respect to the terrorists attacks. it's imperative we guard against that. ge spite our achievements, al qaeda exists today. al qaed

first of all i'd like to recognize the extraordinary leadership of tom kean and lee hamilton. from the very first meeting that we had on the 9/11 commission when they pledged to do virtually everything together, never appear on a tv show without the other one. there are lessons to the rest of us to the eight other commissioners were extraordinarily profound. that we had been attacked, that we had lost almost 3,000 of our citizens and we were going to get to the bottom of it and work across partisan lines and produce a report that would make america safer. all the way through lee and tom showed this great leadership for the commission and for our country. i also want to say to my fellow commissioner, i've been blessed with a lot of different opportunities to be serve our country. whether it's been in congress or overseas, i can't think of anything that has touched my heart, my soul, my brain, and learned more than from the people that i've worked with over the past 10 years. i salute you all. thank you for your leadership for our country. also i just want to recognize the 9/11

he said it is tom kean and jennifer, the two identified. then he said miss o'connor and he said yes. he identified you as the chief person. in the six months you're there, this is a huge story. you got the key player in this who took the fifth. it's in the news every day. at that time, you're delling us you didn't have any inclination that a bunch of lois lerner's e-mails were lost? >> i did not know they were missing and uncoverable and a laptop crash had caused that. >> when you did learn, what was the date that the white house counsel's office learned? >> mr. koskinen told us he felt he had no duty to disclose. he knew in march there were lost e-mails. he didn't tell us at the end of march. someone at the white house learned in april. we didn't learn till june when they sent us a letter a week and a half ago. when did the white house counsel's office learn that there were lost e-mails? >> so i just got there. >> i understand. >> i'm asking when the counsel. how -- there's only like 25 lawyers. >> i wasn't there in april. i have seen the