why did you sack tom kroen? >> we didn't sack tom kroen. what happened with tom kroen was when we made the regrettable decision to close news of the world after 168 years, tom kroen has predominantly been the news of the world lawyer. his status is legal manager because of the situation at the news of the world he predominantly spent most of his time in fact pretty much 99% of his time on the news of the world. the rest of the company and the rest of the titles we had appointed new lawyers and there wasn't a job for tom once we closed the news of the world and he left. >> what's -- >> sorry? >> someone is still dealing with the news of the world legal cases? >> the civil cases are being dealt with by like i said the first one is the standard management committee that we've set up. but also we've got some test cases coming up before the judge in january when there are people dealing with it. but tom kroen's role was a hands on legal manager of the news of the world. and obviously when we closed the paper there wasn't a job there. >> i must h