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tom massie promised to not vote for speaker johnson. ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan. he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be a certain kind of speaker. it could be a committee assignment. we will probably find out in the days ahead what the conversation was and what promises if any were made by johnson. host: had to walk down to the well to change their votes publicly. guest: that is an important point. we had seven republicans choose not to vote when their names first came up. that met their name would be called again. when their names were called again they said they would vote for speaker johnson. because two of the three voted for a named candidate, they needed to
tom massie promised to not vote for speaker johnson. ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan. he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be...
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tom massie says i'm not in. tom massie a bright guy., if he has these strict rules to live by and he has got these things that he wants to achieve, get into leadership. you can't just sit back and just criticize everyone and you have to understand the reality what these speakers are negotiating with i would say this. you can be optimistic or not. i just got to know what victoria spartz is going to do and chip roy is going to do. they say a mistake made. too many concessions to members. but, chip roy according to axios says i want to be chairman of the rules committee. that's not going to fly. because there is a chairman. >> the thing that is perplexing to me is for all the criticism of thomas massie he has been the same way. is he a fiscal conservative, but, he is supported mccarthy. he got the reforms that he wanted so why can't we have that same process where we are talking about the appropriations committee. going through the budget process. the second being very critical of them bringing things to the floor without the votes. so i h
tom massie says i'm not in. tom massie a bright guy., if he has these strict rules to live by and he has got these things that he wants to achieve, get into leadership. you can't just sit back and just criticize everyone and you have to understand the reality what these speakers are negotiating with i would say this. you can be optimistic or not. i just got to know what victoria spartz is going to do and chip roy is going to do. they say a mistake made. too many concessions to members. but,...
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tom massie is wanted chip roy is another one. he endorsed ron desantis and is been a target of trump's fire. he's a believer and a lot of conservative causes including cutting the deficit and cutting spending which trump doesn't care about. the fact the margins are the small means trump alone cannot have the kind of super influence that he tends to have. >> we should remind everyone the trump issued directives to the showdown a few weeks ago. he said get rid of the debt ceiling thing and they ignored him. thank you for your reporting. >>> still to come with less than three weeks until inauguration, sherrod brown with a strategy for a second trump term, next. trump term, next. (tony hawk) i still love to surf, snowboard, and of course, skate, so i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol's high-absorption magnesium glycinate helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol. the brand i trust. what if your mobile network wasn't just built to work out here... ...but was designed differently to also give you
tom massie is wanted chip roy is another one. he endorsed ron desantis and is been a target of trump's fire. he's a believer and a lot of conservative causes including cutting the deficit and cutting spending which trump doesn't care about. the fact the margins are the small means trump alone cannot have the kind of super influence that he tends to have. >> we should remind everyone the trump issued directives to the showdown a few weeks ago. he said get rid of the debt ceiling thing and...
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kentucky congressman tom massie is a firm no even after trump backed johnson's reelection bid. a democratic strategist and mike madrid, former political director of california's republican party and cofounder of the lincoln project join me not to discuss. mike's latest book, the latina century, how the largest american minority is transforming democracy is out now. mike johnson says he expects the vote will go smoothly tomorrow. if i'm in his position, project confidence. that's what you have to do. are you banging that? >> it can be defined in multiple ways but it will go smoother than it would for mccarthy. it has to. i don't think the opposition is a strong. what's interesting is why wouldn't it? there was a time and i'm older than i look, there was a time when republicans were known for being the party that was in solidarity and lockstep with one another but the factions of the republican party are so divisive these days that one has to wonder that even when they win the white house, even when they win majorities in the senate and congress, what they still mad about? that's
kentucky congressman tom massie is a firm no even after trump backed johnson's reelection bid. a democratic strategist and mike madrid, former political director of california's republican party and cofounder of the lincoln project join me not to discuss. mike's latest book, the latina century, how the largest american minority is transforming democracy is out now. mike johnson says he expects the vote will go smoothly tomorrow. if i'm in his position, project confidence. that's what you have...
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you have people like tom massie and chip roy who want to vote no, even on love and puppies. therefore, i think that attempting to do as much as you can in one bill, and a bill, by the way, that some democrats who are on the margin say it'll be a hard thing to vote no on, it's something we're not talking enough about. there are a dozen democrats in districts where trump won, and they have to vote to not secure the border. they'll have to vote for unpopular things if they oppose it. if mike johnson is able to do everything popular, love and puppies in one bill, and pull even a handful of democrats over, then chip roy and tom massie and the other clowns don't matter. >> doug, what do you think? >> yeah, i think that's right. ultimately, what johnson is trying to do is also protect his members. better to have one bad vote than two sort of bad votes. it's also easier, potentially, to do that. the challenge he faces, brad is right, there are democrats who certainly can support this, is one of the arguments, and this is what we saw play out last week, is the chip roys and thomas ma
you have people like tom massie and chip roy who want to vote no, even on love and puppies. therefore, i think that attempting to do as much as you can in one bill, and a bill, by the way, that some democrats who are on the margin say it'll be a hard thing to vote no on, it's something we're not talking enough about. there are a dozen democrats in districts where trump won, and they have to vote to not secure the border. they'll have to vote for unpopular things if they oppose it. if mike...
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. >> colorful quotes from tom massie joining us is congressional reporter from politico.fect set up from matt gaetz an anchor and one of the key rabble rouseers in the last iteration of the speaker battle. we are in a new congress but feels the same. where do things stand. >> what we are watching is right now in realtime is house republicans make their asks to speaker johnson in an effort to get the vote. we saw this play out years ago when we saw then speaker mccarthy also concede to some of the same conservative members. lots of members in the far right house freedom caucus. so that is why we are seeing them, you know, as what was taking place yesterday, coming in and out of the speak are's seat a meet with johnson what they like to see and make the asks. so, while they have this power, to be able to hold their no vote, that's why they are making the asks and you know, we will see what happens and just a few hours, when the house 119th congress convenes, and the first vote takes place to see whether speaker johnson gets the gavel again. >> they start doing roll call aro
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. >> if you're only in the elevator, she will-- >> three on the panel, tom massie, chip roy, norman have been a pain in your side. are you going to take them off the committee? >> no, i'll tell you what happened, we announced about an hour ago. so thomas massie called me a couple months back and said he wanted to rotate off the rules committee, a lot of extra work and he does a lot of things and put his focus elsewhere, that makes sense. >> lucky for you. >> lucky for-- no, he made the decision himself so i didn't have to address that. chip roy will be back on the rules committee as will ralph norman because they contribute well there, and we're going to replace the massie seat with norman griffiths, who is a very thoughtful person and almost a total nerd about rules. just one of those guys that studies it and loves it, it's kind of an obvious fit and virginia fox a great chair. used to be the vice chair of rules and did a couple of cycles there and rotated off to take the gavel of education and work force and now she's going to come back and do that duty again. well suited and the most
. >> if you're only in the elevator, she will-- >> three on the panel, tom massie, chip roy, norman have been a pain in your side. are you going to take them off the committee? >> no, i'll tell you what happened, we announced about an hour ago. so thomas massie called me a couple months back and said he wanted to rotate off the rules committee, a lot of extra work and he does a lot of things and put his focus elsewhere, that makes sense. >> lucky for you. >> lucky...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the cheap. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expected house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries, a brooklyn. house.
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the cheap. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expected house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries of brooklyn. house r
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's...
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massie tom. emmer. emmer okay, so, thomas massie as promised, is a no. >> he voted for tom emmer instead. and that is a protest vote and a no vote. and jake. the first official no vote from the republican conference for mike johnson, mccaul johnson. >> jake. >> oh, dana, thanks so much. i'm sorry i didn't hear you throw it to me. so right now, for those keeping track at home, that's one vote from a republican for someone other than speaker mike johnson. that's thomas massie of kentucky, who we knew was going to vote was not going to vote for johnson. he voted for congressman tom emmer. in addition to that, i think there is at 4 or 5 republicans have not voted. what is our count at this point? 555 house republicans have have not voted, including paul gosar of arizona, andy andy harris of maryland, andy biggs of arizona, michael cloud of texas, andrew clyde of georgia, manu raju. do we have any idea why they are doing this? why they are just not voting? >> well, they have asked for a number of concessions
massie tom. emmer. emmer okay, so, thomas massie as promised, is a no. >> he voted for tom emmer instead. and that is a protest vote and a no vote. and jake. the first official no vote from the republican conference for mike johnson, mccaul johnson. >> jake. >> oh, dana, thanks so much. i'm sorry i didn't hear you throw it to me. so right now, for those keeping track at home, that's one vote from a republican for someone other than speaker mike johnson. that's thomas massie of...
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and republicans, republican tom massie of kentucky, is opposed to johnson gaining the speaker's gavelin. several members of the freedom caucus are not as definitive as massie, but are still not committing their support yet. we begin with nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake, correspondent karl hulls, political analyst and former press conference to paul ryan brendan buck and former michigan congressman republican fred upton and former pennsylvania congresswoman democrat susan loyal. garrett, two years ago four days, 15 rounds of voting. what do we expect this hour? the speaker has been busy, corralling votes. maybe making some trades. things are being promised. arms are being twist. what's going on? >> reporter: yeah, andrea, the speaker has been holed up in his office since yesterday at that time meeting with some of these members who are hold-outs. he tells reporters he made no promises. >> we will now hear -- >> reporter: as they get underway on the floor. to get the votes that will be necessary to get across the finish line, i can tell you the vibes around spe
and republicans, republican tom massie of kentucky, is opposed to johnson gaining the speaker's gavelin. several members of the freedom caucus are not as definitive as massie, but are still not committing their support yet. we begin with nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent, garrett haake, correspondent karl hulls, political analyst and former press conference to paul ryan brendan buck and former michigan congressman republican fred upton and former pennsylvania congresswoman democrat...
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someone like tom massie who his charge against johnson is well, he worked with democrats to pass ukrainetrump's choice from being speaker of the house. that's what he is doing maybe we should stop having republicans in the house teaming up with democrats to thwart donald trump even before he takes office. >> trace: what are your thoughts on that very razor thin margin. a little bit of question in the air. >> yeah, i mean, this mandate that everyone was talking about in november seems to be pretty slim. republicans can't even agree have a speaker. how are they going to get donald trump's agenda done in the first 100 days without compromising with the democrats. not showing faith in the continuing resolution. it will be interesting to see how this plays out. i don't think it will go more than a couple of rounds because we also need to certify the election on monday. i do think they are going to have to learn how it work with democrats or they're not going to get donald trump's agenda done in the first 100 days. >> josh. i got 30 seconds for you. >> a real question of whether republicans ca
someone like tom massie who his charge against johnson is well, he worked with democrats to pass ukrainetrump's choice from being speaker of the house. that's what he is doing maybe we should stop having republicans in the house teaming up with democrats to thwart donald trump even before he takes office. >> trace: what are your thoughts on that very razor thin margin. a little bit of question in the air. >> yeah, i mean, this mandate that everyone was talking about in november...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the team. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expected house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries, a brooklyn. house.
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs at face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the team. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expncted house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries, a brooklyn. >> house
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the cheap. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expected house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries, a brooklyn. house.
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson. >> and other republicans like south carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most changed their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's...
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tom massie is one of them.lican congressman who endorsed ron desantis has been a target of his ire in the past. he is a true believer in a lot of conservative causes including things like cutting the deficit and cutting spending which trump doesn't care so much about. the fact the margins are small means donald trump alone can't have the kind of super influence he tends to have. >> we should remind everyone donald trump issued directives during the showdown we had a few weeks ago. he said get rid of the debt ceiling and it didn't work and they ignored him. sahil kapur, thanks for your reporting. >>> still to come with less than three weeks until inauguration, the democratic strategy for a second trump term. that's next. ing for you. we wouldn't be where we are without saint jude. and in turn, we wouldn't be where we are without those people that have donated. hey, take a moment. do you know who we are? we are the kids you champion every day. we are the ones who dream big. and because of you, our dreams become a
tom massie is one of them.lican congressman who endorsed ron desantis has been a target of his ire in the past. he is a true believer in a lot of conservative causes including things like cutting the deficit and cutting spending which trump doesn't care so much about. the fact the margins are small means donald trump alone can't have the kind of super influence he tends to have. >> we should remind everyone donald trump issued directives during the showdown we had a few weeks ago. he said...
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kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson and other republicans likeouth carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest broker. >> he shows you his true beliefs face value, michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain supported johnson. >> as did tennessee congressman mark green. this is about the trump agenda. new york congressman nick langworthy said president-elect donald trump's endorsement of johnson should be enough. this is the quarterback he's chosen for the cheap. >> in it is it is time that we come together as expected house democrats stood by their same leader from the previous congress. house democrats are united. >> behind the most powerful legislative leader in this chamber. jeffries of brooklyn. >> and house r
kentucky congressman tom massie already said he would vote against johnson and other republicans likeouth carolina congressman ralph norman also nominated others for speaker norman. jordan. but then most change their tune and voted for johnson. some gop members had concerns about federal government spending and wanted assurances from johnson that he has a plan to tackle it. johnson said he will be transparent about where tax dollars are spent and find better ways to use them. he's an honest...
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tom massie promised to not vote for speaker johnson.ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan. he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be a certain kind of speaker. it could be a committee assignment. we will probably find out in the days ahead what the conversation was and what promises if any were made by johnson. host: had to walk down to the well to change their votes publicly. guest: that is an important point. we had seven republicans choose not to vote when their names first came up. that met their name would be called again. when their names were called again they said they would vote for speaker johnson. because two of the three voted for a named candidate, they needed to g
tom massie promised to not vote for speaker johnson.ralph norman, republican of south carolina, voted for jim jordan. he voted for republican byron donalds. because we have the c-span cameras in there today, we saw speaker johnson, keith self and ralph norman huddle and then walk off the floor. what do you think happened? guest: we heard from a congressman about what he thought happened. it was a conversation about what it is they need or want. it could be anything from a general promise to be...
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massie. tom emmer. emmer. was the voice of kentucky congressman thomas massie, who voted instead for the majority whip thomas emmer. two others ralph norman of south carolina and keith self of texas also voted for alternative speakers. the magic number forjohnson was 218 — he was two short. and so began a frenzied hour of wheeling and dealing. asjohnson tried to shift the norman and self into the yes column. and in the end it worked. the house will be in order. mr norman- _ the house will be in order. mr norman. johnson. mr self. johnson _ johnson. applause tojohnson�*s on the first round this was the moment the last few minutes as he was escorted by his fellow congressmen to begin a second term as house speaker. at the republicans hope the slender list of margins in the house this was not as wild as 2023, nonetheless the vote today will raise concerns of bigger problems ahead. before we came on airas but air as but the republican just before we came on air, i spoke to republican congressman from tennessee tim
massie. tom emmer. emmer. was the voice of kentucky congressman thomas massie, who voted instead for the majority whip thomas emmer. two others ralph norman of south carolina and keith self of texas also voted for alternative speakers. the magic number forjohnson was 218 — he was two short. and so began a frenzied hour of wheeling and dealing. asjohnson tried to shift the norman and self into the yes column. and in the end it worked. the house will be in order. mr norman- _ the house will be...
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. >> massie. >> tom emmer. >> emmer. >> reporter: johnson initially lost three. ucky's thomas massie, south carolina's ralph norman, and texas' keith self, who opposed some of the large spending bills johnson asked to avoid government shutdowns last year, voted for someone else first. president-elect donald trump who endorsed johnson intervened and called two of the defectors peered norman and self then switched their votes to put johnson over the top. >> what did the president say to you? >> i'm not going to divulge my conversation with the president. we needed more input from members like myself, not a chairman, not in a leadership position. and i think that is what we have done. >> we got together. mike gave us his assurances he's going to fight for thing supported to the country. and was it worth taking another hour? yes. >> reporter: for johnson, tougher sliding lies ahead. the house must raise the nation's borrowing limit in the coming months and avert another government shutdown in march to keep trump's presidency from being derailed. but he might need demo
. >> massie. >> tom emmer. >> emmer. >> reporter: johnson initially lost three. ucky's thomas massie, south carolina's ralph norman, and texas' keith self, who opposed some of the large spending bills johnson asked to avoid government shutdowns last year, voted for someone else first. president-elect donald trump who endorsed johnson intervened and called two of the defectors peered norman and self then switched their votes to put johnson over the top. >> what did...
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massie. >> tom emmer. >> emmer. [indistinct conversation] >> bret: okay, so that is thomas massie, and he has voted for bob ever for speaker. so that is another person, you see that 1 there, that was predicted. you can't have another republican go the other way, otherwise we are going to another ballot at the end. remember there are five members have not responded yet. four g.o.p.es, biggs, cloud, . they could come at the end and vote, but if they don't it puts the magic number, the total number at 429 instead of 434 and that means the magic number would be 215 so there is a number of ways this can go just by process. and they could not vote and he could still win with a majority of 215. but it is a dangerous game when you start playing this because hakeem jeffries can also g get a 215. and that is where this is. >> and what happens of carson's shows up, the democrat and the four republicans don't show up, you could theoretically have 216 democrats, 215 republicans, which would be a very uncomfortable moment. >> sand
massie. >> tom emmer. >> emmer. [indistinct conversation] >> bret: okay, so that is thomas massie, and he has voted for bob ever for speaker. so that is another person, you see that 1 there, that was predicted. you can't have another republican go the other way, otherwise we are going to another ballot at the end. remember there are five members have not responded yet. four g.o.p.es, biggs, cloud, . they could come at the end and vote, but if they don't it puts the magic...
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is convince two of them, the obvious two names that he needs to convince are ralph norman, and tom massie is deeply dug in. how he does that is unclear. this is again, a very poor start for house republicans in what's likely to be a challenging task ahead for the eventual speaker. >> so melanie, with mike johnson saying he's not going to make deals with anyone, i'm curious what is happening now. there's got to be some kind of deal making going on, particularly to sahil's point, those two, ralph norman and keith self of south carolina and texas respectively. what do you think is being done to approach them, and say we need you to change your vote? is there any presumption that ultimately speaker johnson will not be reelected speaker johnson? >> the margin for error is very very small, he needs to flip two members, and i think it also depends on what your definition of what a deal is. he says he's not going to cut any deals. at the same time, he cut out this social media post, laying out a list of commitments that he said he was going to make, mostly regarding fiscal responsibility, the dog
is convince two of them, the obvious two names that he needs to convince are ralph norman, and tom massie is deeply dug in. how he does that is unclear. this is again, a very poor start for house republicans in what's likely to be a challenging task ahead for the eventual speaker. >> so melanie, with mike johnson saying he's not going to make deals with anyone, i'm curious what is happening now. there's got to be some kind of deal making going on, particularly to sahil's point, those two,...
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. >> it's going to work because again, you have tom massy and some folks that are real identifyo idealoguesld have been a really good speaker, but kevin was dealt a bad hand. i think the solution is this. trump's going to get a lot of what he wants, even with thin margins. but i were massy and some of these guys that won't to vote no, you've got to put on paper what you want. you've got to be clear on strategy. it can't be we want complete entitlement tomorrow. that's not practical. i think they are practical. i think they can lay out a strategy and understand in government you can't get everything you want. >> governor mccarthy was here yesterday. obviously he's still smarting with what they put him through. they're neglect shouting negotiating for their own interest. >> if you want him on a committee, put him on a committee. >> you irritate the rest of the caucus, who has been there supporting you. >> i think the biggest opportunity for congress is -- and i'm a believer in doge. i'm a believer in what they're trying to do fundamentally. if they nip around the edges on a program here, or a
. >> it's going to work because again, you have tom massy and some folks that are real identifyo idealoguesld have been a really good speaker, but kevin was dealt a bad hand. i think the solution is this. trump's going to get a lot of what he wants, even with thin margins. but i were massy and some of these guys that won't to vote no, you've got to put on paper what you want. you've got to be clear on strategy. it can't be we want complete entitlement tomorrow. that's not practical. i...
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. >> i don't know tom massie, but i know people who know him well and put him in high regard and thoseeople i keep in high regard, too. do you feel like -- and he seems like a fearless guy. do you feel maybe you all know or heard something, do you feel like he may be trying to make some type of play for the speakership? i'm not -- i'm in kentucky, but i don't live in the district that he represents, that's up in boone county, northern kentucky. i've considered voting for him, but i would have to move and i don't think that's likely. but anyway, thank you for the good work you do. i'll be interested in your opinion. >> thank you, sir. >> i haven't heard any indication and as far as i know, people that i work with in the news room and so forth, haven't heard that this is an attempt by massie to put himself into the race for speaker. he is an interesting guy, an interesting member of congress, you know. he's an inventing, you know, he has sort of off grid house in kentucky and i mean, he has really, now, he's got this little pin that shows the national debt. i mean, he is an interesting a
. >> i don't know tom massie, but i know people who know him well and put him in high regard and thoseeople i keep in high regard, too. do you feel like -- and he seems like a fearless guy. do you feel maybe you all know or heard something, do you feel like he may be trying to make some type of play for the speakership? i'm not -- i'm in kentucky, but i don't live in the district that he represents, that's up in boone county, northern kentucky. i've considered voting for him, but i would...
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you had thomas massie who voted for tom emmer, the majority whip. keith self voted for byron donalds. and ralph norman voted for jim jordan. what happened there, kind of a dramatic scene on the floor were nancy mace was on the phone, speaker johnson came and talked to self and norman and took them off to a side room and got them on the phone and trump called and said it's time to get going. they came back into the room after quite a delay and they voted for house speaker mike johnson. keith self that he was very frustrated with how the 118th congress went, and you asked that question, that is kind of part and parcel of what it is going to be like during this congress. it is such a narrow majority, edward, for the republicans, that they are going to be able to do all of these things, it is going to be tough because on every single roll call vote you are probably going to have two or three holdout saying i am for 95% of this bill but i want a or b. that's going to be a challenge peer here was the final tally: mike johnson eventually racked up 218 vote
you had thomas massie who voted for tom emmer, the majority whip. keith self voted for byron donalds. and ralph norman voted for jim jordan. what happened there, kind of a dramatic scene on the floor were nancy mace was on the phone, speaker johnson came and talked to self and norman and took them off to a side room and got them on the phone and trump called and said it's time to get going. they came back into the room after quite a delay and they voted for house speaker mike johnson. keith...
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thomas massie of kentucky voted for majority whip tom emmer.keith self of texas supported byron donalds and ralph norman backed jim jordan. however, a phone call from president elect trump compelled self and norman to change their vote. >> he just said mike johnson is the only one that's got the support among the body to become speaker. we went in to meetings. the meeting off the floor, and i said, mike, are you going to give us specific examples of fighting for the things we mentioned? will you give us your word? he said yes. >> the vote underscores how tough it could be for the gop to manage its narrow majority. that could cause problems passing key parts of president elect trump's agenda. >> this is going to be a long family road trip over the course of the next two years. in a period of time of narrowly divided government, where we have simply a two seat majority and sometimes possibly less. >> after winning the gavel, johnson told lawmakers it's time to get to work. >> in recent months, we've witnessed something happening, something that's
thomas massie of kentucky voted for majority whip tom emmer.keith self of texas supported byron donalds and ralph norman backed jim jordan. however, a phone call from president elect trump compelled self and norman to change their vote. >> he just said mike johnson is the only one that's got the support among the body to become speaker. we went in to meetings. the meeting off the floor, and i said, mike, are you going to give us specific examples of fighting for the things we mentioned?...
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thomas massie of kentucky voted for majority whip tom emmer. keith self of texas supported byron donalds. and ralph norman backed jim jordan of. however, a phone call from president-elect trump compelled self and norman to change their vote. >> he just said mike johnson is the only one that's got the support among the body to become speaker. we went into meetings. meeting off the floor, and i said, mike, are you going to give us specific examples of fighting for the things we we mentioned? will you give us your word? he said, yeah. >> reporter: the vote underscores how tough it could be for the go gop to manage its majority, that could cause problems passing the agenda. >> this is going to be a long family road trip over the course of the next two years and a period of time of narrowly divided government where we have a 2-seat majority and sometimes possibly less. >> reporter: johnson told lawmakers it's time to get to work. >> in recent months we've witnessed something happening, something that's really remarkable, a political moment in our mo
thomas massie of kentucky voted for majority whip tom emmer. keith self of texas supported byron donalds. and ralph norman backed jim jordan of. however, a phone call from president-elect trump compelled self and norman to change their vote. >> he just said mike johnson is the only one that's got the support among the body to become speaker. we went into meetings. meeting off the floor, and i said, mike, are you going to give us specific examples of fighting for the things we we...
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tom emmer. congressman, thanks for the time. you are the only other person who received a vote besides those two men. mike johnson and hakeem jeffries. thomas massie you for speak. speaker. he and two others caused drama on capitol hill. what is your take about what happened there today and what the message was from them? >> i think the message is from the republican conference, bret, again, thanks for having me, but the message is republicans are unified behind donald trump and the incoming administration. and we're ready to get to work right now on enacting the trump agenda which is exactly what the american people voted for on november 5th. were there people thapghted to be heard? were there people that had things that they wanted our speaker to know were important to them? yes. that is just the way this process works. if you recall two years ago it took 15 and almost a week to get it done. today it was one ballot, one and done and ready it get mary olinger immediately. >> bret: definitely a much different situation. but you know, if you look at the breakdown and that majority and how it sits right now, 219 to 215 and then you are going to lose
tom emmer. congressman, thanks for the time. you are the only other person who received a vote besides those two men. mike johnson and hakeem jeffries. thomas massie you for speak. speaker. he and two others caused drama on capitol hill. what is your take about what happened there today and what the message was from them? >> i think the message is from the republican conference, bret, again, thanks for having me, but the message is republicans are unified behind donald trump and the...
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as the clerk read off all names alphabetically, thomas massie stuck to his word and voted for another candidate, presented of tom emmer of minnesota. ralph norman of south carolina and keystones of texas also voted for candidates other than johnson, leaving him shy of the 218 votes needed for majority. instead of accepting defeat and heading into a second vote johnson huddled with norman and members of the freedom caucus on the floor and in an adjacent room, trying to negotiate a path forward. upon seeing that johnson did not have the votes representative nancy mace called a trump, who was playing golf, and handed her phone to norman for the present -- so the president elect talk to the holdout. the article says that at about 2:30 p.m., two and a half hours after the new house had convened, norman and self walked to the well of the house and asked to change their votes to johnson. the final tally, johnson had 218 votes, exactly enough, while hakeem jeffries of new york had 215 votes. emmer had one vote from massey. after that vote took place and representative mike johnson was elected as the new house speaker he
as the clerk read off all names alphabetically, thomas massie stuck to his word and voted for another candidate, presented of tom emmer of minnesota. ralph norman of south carolina and keystones of texas also voted for candidates other than johnson, leaving him shy of the 218 votes needed for majority. instead of accepting defeat and heading into a second vote johnson huddled with norman and members of the freedom caucus on the floor and in an adjacent room, trying to negotiate a path forward....
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as the clerk read off all names alphabetically, thomas massie stuck to his word and voted for another candidate, presented of tommmer of minnesota. ralph norman of south carolina and keystones of texas also voted for candidates other than johnson, leaving him shy of the 218 votes needed for majority. instead of accepting defeat and heading into a second vote johnson huddled with norman and members of the freedom caucus on the floor and in an adjacent room, trying to negotiate a path forward. upon seeing that johnson did not have the votes representative nancy mace called a trump, who was playing golf, and handed her phone to norman for the present -- so the president elect talk to the holdout. the article says that at about 2:30 p.m., two and a half hours after the new house had convened, norman and self walked to the well of the house and asked to change their votes to johnson. the final tally, johnson had 218 votes, exactly enough, while hakeem jeffries of new york had 215 votes. emmer had one vote from massey. after that vote took place and representative mike johnson was elected as the new house speaker he s
as the clerk read off all names alphabetically, thomas massie stuck to his word and voted for another candidate, presented of tommmer of minnesota. ralph norman of south carolina and keystones of texas also voted for candidates other than johnson, leaving him shy of the 218 votes needed for majority. instead of accepting defeat and heading into a second vote johnson huddled with norman and members of the freedom caucus on the floor and in an adjacent room, trying to negotiate a path forward....
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tom massey of kentucky, republican from that state. he said several times he won't be casting about for speaker johnson. it was on matt gaetz's show yesterday on which thomas massiealked about some of the reasons why he wouldn't vote for speaker johnson. [video clip] >> if chip roy was asked to service chairman of the rules committee, with that be enough to get your vote for mike johnson? >> no. you can pull my fingernails out, shelled bamboo and then, start cutting off my fingers, i'm not voting for mike johnson tomorrow. you can take that to the bank. host: that was yesterday. he is the only one who has spoken out against speaker johnson, as greta said at the top. it is yet to be determined if they will vote amongst the republican caucus. axios has a story listing some of the people to watch during the day as they vote. 13 on this list from axios. the story published in the hill this morning talks specifically about some of the reaction of some who have yet to say whether they would vote for speaker johnson or not. they include chip roy, the republican from texas, saying on tuesday that he remained, as of then, undecided. because we saw so many failures last ye
tom massey of kentucky, republican from that state. he said several times he won't be casting about for speaker johnson. it was on matt gaetz's show yesterday on which thomas massiealked about some of the reasons why he wouldn't vote for speaker johnson. [video clip] >> if chip roy was asked to service chairman of the rules committee, with that be enough to get your vote for mike johnson? >> no. you can pull my fingernails out, shelled bamboo and then, start cutting off my fingers,...