. >> thank you supervisor avalos, and cohen and tang and i'm tom mazzucco and i have served with turman for two years and he is an incredible and honorable man who truly is interested in the community, and you know we have had many and he was my vice president for a year and a half when i was present, and the conversations that we have had and the learning experience that goes both ways, with myself, and in all of the commissioners and you know, the san francisco police commission is really unique and conglomeration of many individuals from backgrounds and different experiences and although a lot of us do have lawyer experience and i think that is necessary in this general day and age the part that the public does not see, when we go through the processes with commissioner thank turman he knows about the due process and the rights of the community and the officers and he does that delicate balancing and sometimes it is a very difficult job and we go into closed session we have to determine whether or not that officer will continue with this department. and our first priority is, that no