tom and the dc police officer. the way is clear, shoves him into the car. third shot is high, 4th hits mccarthy, and the sixth cracks across the driveway. no one knows where the sixth shot went. it went through the door we learned later. he had an effective range of 20-30 feet at stationary target. if he doesn't make the car to go to the hospital, we later learn how dire the situation would have been. you know, getting that out of him was a lot of interviews. [laughter] >> by the way -- [applause] by the way, at when it happened, it wasn't clear there was just one shooter because it sounded like someone got off a lot of shots. i was one of the reporters wondering if there was more than one shooter. confirm for us how much difference did it make that jerry parr turned the car to the hospital? >> the critical decision of the day. he insisted on walking into gw. he got just passed the front door and collapsed. even a young healthy person that's pretty serious, you can last that a few minutes before you have irreversible changes, and the president is 70 years old, a healthy 70-year-old. just think