that appearance in part prompted the following tweet from tom nichols. much about this and what it means, we are going to have a discussion about this later in january." it is now later in january. we get a preview of the discussion now. >> ian, let's start with you. you say globalism has failed not only americans but people across the globe. explain. >> i'm not talking about globalization. there's no question that goods and services have become cheaper and around the world we've created a global middle class that before was in poverty. but globalism, the idea of the united states opening borders and leading allies in providing security around the world, the perception among increasingly large numbers of people both in the u.s. and in almost every advanced industrial democracy, really excepting only japan has been that ideology has failed them. that's why you got brexit, which happened before the trump election in the u.s., that's why you've gotten trump and sanders and the euro skepticism across the e.u. >> let me stop you, though. you say perception. l

tom nichols, break in down for me.d on about rudy giuliani and why this is happening, but how is he impacting the president's case to the american people, to the mueller investigators, to congress by having rudy giuliani out there day after day negating himself? >> you know, there's two ways to look at it. one is that he's become like jim carey at the end of "liar liar" where he has to keep blurting things out to the judge and saying, no, no, you can't believe what i just said, that's just a clever trick and that he's almost compelled to tell the truth and have to walk it back. the other is i think there's actually a strategy here and i think it's a strategy you've seen before with other things in the trump administration, which is to flood the zone, just pum ma ppump so much information and have so much of it be unreliable, that so many will be incapable of telling the truth from fiction when the mueller report comes out. so that people have gotten so used to these kind of bomb shells and walk-backs that they don't kn

. >> and as tom nichols points out, at the time the soviet union diechbt argue thdn't even were fightingmerican imperialism, the communism versus democracy fight. joining me again from washington, gabby orr. so many standout moments in that meeting. don't quite know which one to go with. but i want to go with trump's take on sanctions in the form of a "game of thrones" inspired poster that was sitting right in front of him. what is that all about? >> i wish i could tell you. this is a mystery for so many of us reporters who saw that yesterday on the table. the sanctions are coming in the format of a movie poster that is supposed to somehow mimic the show "game of thrones" was first debuted on the president's twitter feed shortly after he talked about reimposing sanctions on iran last year and somehow ended up on the table in this cabinet meeting yesterday without any explanation. the white house has been contacted for comment about why this was there, whether it was a prank or a joke of some kind, something that a cabinet secretary printed out and gave to the president. we don't know why

tom nichols?so much for being here. >> and still ahead, incoming house speaker nancy pelosi weighs in on whether a sitting u.s. president can be indicted. that is coming up on "morning joe." ♪ p on "morning joe. ♪ at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. because when you're ready for what comes next, the only direction is forward. that's why i take osteo bi-flex to keep me moving the way i was made to. it nourishes and strengthens my joints for the long-term. osteo bi-flex; find our coupon in sunday's paper. this round's on me . hey, can you spot me? come on in! find your place, today, with silver sneakers... included with many medicare advantage plans. call the number on the screen now or visit getsilversneakers.com allow you to take advantage of growth opportunities with a level of protection in down markets. so you can be less concerned about your retirement savings. talk with your advisor about shield℠ annu

fisa abuses political biasless goes on and on to debate conservative review contributor tom borrelli, jason nicholsbeing here tom you say top aggregations should not be focused on things like this. why? >> well they shouldn't be they should be focused on issues such as possible terrorism in the united states spies all the good stuff agents do you unfortunateli unfortunately when candidate trump was running fbi doj had campaign for undermine him before and after his election, what we see with this "new york times" story a classic, "new york times" said part of the transcript most damaging to president trump and they happened to leave out the part one conclusion it was political bias the fbi and the emotions surrounding it that led to this investigation of president trump. >> your response, i am assuming you disagree. >> uh i do, i think that -- first of all, the fbi can chew gum and walk at the same time they are absolutely looking at terrorism many other important issues, i think that president trump and some of the odd statements he made want to go advocate russia to join g-7 after they invaded uk

and they put, tom nichols pointed out, how long did they keep bin laden in an ankle bracelet for howating around pakistan. >> wait a second, they blew his brains out. >> okay. so they didn't treat him quite as badly. >> they did not knock on bin laden's front door. there was not a knock saying, bin laden, fbi, come on out. they didn't do that. >> roger stone, trump's long time adviser equated the use of force to what was used in the bin laden raid. i do think bin laden might disagree. listen. >> i didn't understand the christmas special with kanye and bing crosby but still. >> you were adorable doing that. stone's complaint that his crossing the were terrorized is a tiny bit ironic because his seven count indictment includes the allegation that stone tried to intimidate someone by threatening their therapy dog. don't do that. welcome to "morning joe". it's tuesday, january 29th, 2019. we have mike barnicle. heidi przybyla. and eugene robinson. former vice president joe biden -- >> wait. wee going to talk about 2020 now? >> you can, if you like. >> rough for howard schultz. >> did you

nick: tom, wave your wand. dr. nichols: i will end with a highly contrarian argument into the virtualization and virtual programs and all that stuff, the one thing i would wave my wand and say, to the extent this is based on the idea everybody needs to go to college, i would stop saying that. we have propagandized multiple generations of young people into believing that the only path in life is to go to college. if you can't go to a residence college, then you go to a distant college, and if you cannot do that, you take some then courses, and we end up with people demographically who have had some college or not really a college experience. there are a lot of paths to happiness that don't involve college, and we need to stop saying that. nick: that is a controversial one but a subject for another discussion. we are unfortunately out of time right now, but this is great talk, thank you for being here. have a great day. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2019] [captioning performed by the national

to her left is thomas nichols. tom is a professor of national security in newport, rhode island, also on the faculty of the harvard extension school and notably a 5-time jeopardy champion. he holds a bachelors degree from boston university and doctorate from georgetown and he's the recent author of a book that is somewhat on point to our subject, depth of expertise, the campaign against established knowledge and why it matters. thank you for being with us. i would like to open the discussion. i want to encourage those of you in the audience or i would like to begin by talking about technological changes, you see it in your classrooms. there has been -- technology changing the way professors relate to students. let's get real specific on the ground. how has your classroom changed? we will get your experiences, we can talk about pros and cons of this. >> thank you for having me. a pleasure to be here. i would say i teach pretty traditional seminar style graduate and undergraduate classes. when i first started teaching 15

to her left is thomas nichols, tom is a professor of national security affairs at the u.s. naval war college in newport rhode island and is also on the faculty of the harvard extension school and he is notably also a five-time jeopardy champion. [ laughter ] >> he holds a bachelors degree from boston university and a doctorate from georgetown. he is a recent author of a book that is somewhat on point to are subject your called the death of expertise. a campaign against established knowledge and why it matters. so, thank you cynthia and tom for being here with us. i'd like to open our discussion the best oh, before i go any further, i want to encourage those in the audience or watching us online, to please tweet to us any questions you might think we should have during this discussion at the #post live and we will track the questions and try to work them into our discussion. >> now, i would like to begin by talking about technological changes but can you see it in your classrooms, there has been much made of the idea that classroom instruction is changing and technology is c

tom costello is in washington. steve patterson is in washington state. and hans nichols is on capitol hill for us. m, let me start with you. this is a pressure point when it comes to tsa workers calling out sick that so many americans could be feeling. >> yeah. well, this is where many americans have their only interface with government workers on a regular basis at the airport near you. while it's a tuesday in january, we are closely watching what the callout rates are nationwide. here's what the tsa is telling us this morning. for monday, for mlk day, a national callout rate of 7.5%. that's the number of people calling out saying they can't get to work and many of them blaming financial hardships. compare that to 10% on sunday. then we had 3.3% a year ago. 8 % on saturday. what's the point here? the point is we're averaging between 8 to 10% on any given day of government's workers calling out seek, tsa workers calling out sick. wait times at airports across the country, these are the most affected airports because of a lack of tsa staffing, we've seen it affected at minneapolis st. paul and bwa,

tom homan, thank you very much. i want to bring in my power panel, now. emily compagno is a fox news contributor. jason nicholsite sides of the political aisle. we agreed today that this issue has captivated the nation. >> when you have people going without paychecks, 260,000 of them being military veterans who are going without paychecks, we know that financial instability is one of the major causes of suicide amongst military veterans. this is a major issue that we have to solve. we hope that the president comes to his senses and ends the shutdown. >> harris: jason just put the facts right there. those are stubborn, emily. you might even ask if there are dea agents that could potentially be on this list among those 800,000 people. you have a president who has now pretty clearly in the last 48 hours, better than we have maybe seen it before, or more detailed, really talked about the issue of the drug cartels and what's coming across our border. that is frustrating. >> absolutely, i take your points, professor. of course. i was a federal attorney for a long time. i was for load, i headed out for the papers. to