that finally caught up with tom pendergast. and he was indicted in 1939. and went to jail in eleven worth. the federal penitentiary. he was nothing by this point by 1945. and pendergast died. natural causes. truman came to his funeral. truman who just became vice president came to the funeral of tom pendergast. during wartime. on a military plane. it's a big controversy. and weeks later, roosevelt died. and truman was president of the united states. so truman could never completely distance himself from the background with the machine. and he owned it. he said that pendergast always kept his word. and he wasn't going to abandon his friend. so. so what we're trying to do is complicate that history. and i've done a little bit of that in this interview. but we are building a web site that will include currently we have about 9,500 scans of original documents. we have photographs, letters that people have written to one another back then. i mention the court cases that unvail voter fraud and crime. and it's an interactive web site. that will combine this origin

start from tom's older brother, jim pendergast, who came to kansas city in the 1880s and got started establishing this machine in the first ward of kansas city, which was in the industrial west bottoms down by the river. there were many -- there was an irish community, african american communities. it was very diverse. a lot of working class people. and jim pendergast had sal loans, aloan -- salons. and he went precinct to precinct building this machine that was based on favors. basically helping people get jobs in exchange for votes, helping people through giving them loans that you didn't have to get a formal bank loan. and jim would loan the money, settle gambling debts, skimming money off of the top of illegal activities such as gambling and