reading the newspaper today, the truth about carlie, "new york times" editorial by a man named tom perkins. he was on the hewlett packard board with you. he was part of the group of people who fired you. and now he said he voted to fire you and now he announces it was a mistake and, in fact, the editorial in the paper outlines what he says are your accomplish. s as the ceo. so you have turned him around and now has endorsed you. >> >> you know tom perkins said that to me privately over five years ago. i'm very graduate find that he is saying it graduate find that he is saying it publicly now. i will run on my record all day long. i have never hidden the fact that i was fired from hewlett packard in a board room brawl. i have never been ashamed with that i know when you lead, when you challenge the status quo, you sometimes make enemies. >> the interesting thing is that message that tom perkins, not everybody reads the "new york times" editorial page, if you were on at the stage at the cnn debate, we have a whopping 26 million viewers that night for the two debates. i mean that message abou

mike: tom perkins. if i can name names. alec: it is funny.ause there is so much lag time between when we write the show and when we air, when the show comes on, we write in june and it comes on in april. it is 10 months from when we start writing to win the shows start to hit air. so much of what happens that we want to go after happens after we have written shows but before we air. it always feels like there is a stockpile. emily: you're writing history before it happens. mike: sometimes we have gotten lucky -- or unlucky, depending on how you look at it. we do something on the show and in between the time we shoot it and it comes out, it has happened in the real world. emily: what would you like to happen in the real world silicon valley? like, it would power the show for three more seasons? alec: honestly, just keep doing what you are doing. it seems like every time we try to make up what is the crazy next thing, the real crazy next thing happens and is even crazier. emily: in the next season, all the unicorns are going to blow up, and the

tom perkins, jim pabarksdale ga to her campaign.le have said yes that she hasn't gained traction but she may have a moment sometime later in the cycle if and when she does. she does have a network of financiers that she could turn to. >> if she's hoping to springboard out of the second group. the second tier of the debate forum. >> jeb bush, he'ses king of super pac world over $100 million for her his super pac. scott walker, he hosted a gop this week. walker super pac has about $20 million raised this year. that's less than bush but it gives him a powerful donor who is ready to help him and also a sign that many of the gop establishments want to help some of the candidates to get millions in case trump really continues to run. >> trade his brewers cap for a cubs cap. the first debate thursday is an early but important junction to assess the republican presidential field. you get different opinions from different veterans about how worried they, rand paul and marco rubio should be. or whether john kasich is smart to be targeting jeb