a with me still, is tom ridge, the former homeland security chief and as mr.cretary, i wanted to bring in james cavanaugh, an nbc news and msnbc analyst and a retired atf special agent in charge. mr. cavanaugh, tom ridge and i were talking earlier about the fact that one of the suspects, tamerlan, the older brother, when he was killed, had an ied on him. had some sort of a device strapped around him and that has to be a concern as well. with his younger brother, who is still at large. >> it's a federal event, andrea, in american law enforcement history, that last night, united states police killed a suicide bomber on american soil. and that point of fact, is sort of lost in the greater emergency. but last night, united states police killed a suicide bomber right here and there's another potential and probable suicide bomber still unaccounted for in watertown. so it's really, remain as critical situation. and we know this is a hard fact. the guy had the ied strapped on him as the governor said. we know as a hard fact that suicide is a pillar, an adeal of al qae

i talked to former homeland security chief tom ridge. from your point of view.it surprise you after more than a decade since 9/11 we are having major problems when it comes to sharing information between the agencies? >> exactly this isan outrage, uma. the american public should be outraged. len years after september 11th and after creating the monstrosity of homeland security department and billions spent . because we want to make sure our intelligence agencies share information together and so they prevent a disaster or a tragedy like 9/11. here we are. f.b.i. knew information and did not communicate with the cia and not communicating with the department of the homeland security. it is it a crying shame and a disgrace that we are at this point 11 years after september 11th. i hope it is it a teachable moment for the government and american citizens to rise up and demand that our elected officials do whatever they have to do to put pressure on all of the government agencis and share information together to save american lives. >> i know when the event first unf

tom ridge, thank you for joining us. it is good to have you here. what a week it has been. you are watching bbc world news america. still to come on tonight's program. more on the boston bombings. what should be made of the fact that the is two brothers come from a chechen family? let's go to our other main story tonight. rescuers in texas are still searching for rubble in the hopes of finding survivors after a huge explosion of a fertilizer plants in the town of west. the bodies of 12 people have been recovered so far. >> the town of west isni . a small place. everyone here knows someone who died in the explosion and their families. god is greater. >> neighbors supporting each other. a this community, we are family. it just makes us that much closer. >> several of the volunteers with the west -- several of the dead were volunteers with the west our department who were trying to fight the blaze over killed in the explosion. a sound grow around it. the force of the blast caused a great deal of damage. 200 were injured, but it would have been much worse if it happened a few h

christie whitman, when she was administrator worked with her counterpart in the cabinet, tom ridge. there was no problem working with the department of homeland security and secretary janet napolitano. we need to use the authority we have now because i'm afraid just like gun control, there's a lot of nodding and gnashing of teeth and no one will change anything. although this appears to have been a tragic industrial accident, what if it wasn't? what about the plants out there so susceptible to terrorism that would be very similar to this? >> that, i think, is a really important point, like in the aftermath of newtown, people say a background check wouldn't have prevented newtown necessarily but lots of other gun violence in america. and the same here, this is an opportunity for us to look at how do we oversee chemical plants. i have learned following the story we don't maybe oversee them in the most optimal way because the chemical industry fought very hard to make it that way. >> they use two things against the people. this isn't about epa or department of homeland security. these

we'll turn now to the former secretary of homeland security tom ridge. he joins me now from washington, d.c. secretary ridge, thanks so much for joining me. what is the latest in the investigation as far as you know from your sources? certainly you are plugged in to law enforcement. >> i think i'm going to wait until commissioner davis holds his press conference at 5:00. i think there is undeniably a great desire for not just the press but the americans to know an arrest is imminent. at the end of the day there are conflicting reports and i think we'll probably get some clarity when the commissioner speaks to us at 5:00. >> what types of things -- knowing what we do now, which is that there is a tremendous effort by law enforcement authorities to comb through all images from the area around copley square both from the lord & taylor surveillance camera, other surveillance cameras, law enforcement has been reaching out to individuals who were there, having them share their photographs, share their cell phone and iphone videos. what kind of technology is av

we'll get analysis from former new york mayor rudy giuliani, and former homeland security secretary tom ridge. but that was not the only story this week. there was also the senate's failure to strengthen gun control laws. >> all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> schieffer: we'll hear this morning from the newtown victims' families. >> my mom was not scared in the halls of sandy hook. they should not be scared to cast a vote to protect millions of people. >> schieffer: it was a week of lows and highs. ♪ sweet caroline ♪ >> schieffer: and we'll cover it all because this is "face the nation." captioning sponsored by cbs from cbs news in washington, "face the nation" with bob schieffer. >> schieffer: and gps're gbility are argoodmorning, and h boston police commissioner ed davis. i know you told reporters earlier this morning, that you can't speck plate on the motives of these two young men, but can i ask you this-- were they planning other acts after the bombs they set off at the marathon? >> i personally believe they were. i personally believe they were. we have reason t

and as i mentioned you served under the former secretary of homeland security tom ridge and you spent years helping state and local jurisdictions prepare for prevent and respond to tragedies such as this so in your opinion does this amount to a terror attack and i want to carefully using that word because that often brings up connotations of other meanings. yes well clearly i think if it's determined that this act was for a political or social objective then yes it was a terrorist act and seem it seems on the surface from what we know right now that it certainly seems like it's pointing towards terrorism i don't know of any kind of natural occurrence like an exploding sewer cap they they ruled that out you know those kinds of things and it probably wasn't so i think we're looking at some kind of a statement here and indeed terrorism is designed to instill fear and people and to try to change people's minds although to me that seems very counter-intuitive i don't think anyone's mind is going to be changed about whatever this group or individual is trying to profess i don't think they'r

thank you, tom ridge.o go to elaine at the federal courthouse in downtown boston. >> reporter: good morning, gayle. investigators continue their manhg to loo at ke background o thewo suspects and providing incite. cbs news has interviewed a person who says he is the uncle of the suspect. the man who lives in suburban maryland, a man by the name of alvi tsarni. let's take a look. >> they killed my nephew, tamerlan. and he is involved in this bombing. >> do you believe -- >> i can't believe this. it's not possible. my nephew can't do this stuff. no way. i'm sorry too if he did this. i'm sorry too. it's crazy. it's not possible. i don't -- i can't believe it. nice, when i heard this, i said who can do this? crazy, unbelievable. >> reporter: the uncle there, the person who says he's the uncle of the suspects, expressing surprise at all of this. gayle, more information, another perspective from someone who says he is a relative of these two individuals. gayle and charlie. >> thank you, elaine. >> breaking news

tom ridge a pro choice republican. they made a decision not to inspect any .tate's abortion clinics. they felt the abortion clinicings - cngs -- clinics were on the margin . if the inspectors went in to to the clinic they would be shut down . governor ridge silent on the gosnell trial. i suggest that the governor stop in to 304 to see how his policy turned out. >> i hope he does. i truly do. after the prosecutor finished its case, the defense abruptly rested their own case and gosnell to theta.ness or call did that catch you and other observers in the courtroom off guard? >> we were execk being a week or two weekings of defense testimony. after lunch last wednesday, when the jury brought back in, jack mcman, the superk - superb courtroom lawyer said the defense rests, your honor . jurors looked at each other puzzled. after five weekings of hearing grizzly testimony, you want the man accused of the carnage to get fot stand and said this is why i did it and this is all nonsense. its it a dicey ploy. jack mcman gosnell's attorney must have superb to close the arg

tom ridge a pro choice republican. they made a decision not to inspect any .tate's abortion clinics. they felt the abortion clinicings - clinicings -- clinics were on the margin . if the inspectors went in to to the clinic they would be shut down . governor ridge silent on the gosnell trial. i suggest that the governor stop in to 304 to see how his policy turned out. >> i hope he does. i truly do. after the prosecutor finished its case, the defense abruptly rested their own case and didn't call a witness or call gosnell to the stand. did that catch you and other observers in the courtroom off guard? >> we were execk being a week or two weekings of defense testimony. after lunch last wednesday, when the jury brought back in, jack mcman, the superk - superb courtroom lawyer said the defense rests, your honor . jurors looked at each other puzzled. after five weekings of hearing grizzly testimony, you want the man accused of the carnage to get fot stand and said this is why i did it and this is all nonsense. he didn't do that. it is it a dicey ploy. jack mcman gos

tom ridge, we now know it's not a lone wolf. we know that much. we have at least two faces to go on who the fbi believe are suspects. what is your take on where we are with this investigation? >> first of all, i think much credit should be given to the law enforcement generally. they've taken quite a bit of data and turned it into knowledge and into intelligence. i agree with commissioner bratton, i think it's clear that they have more in their back pocket than just these videos. there may actually be some forensic evidence pointing to at least these two individuals as well. i think at one point in time someone said part of the video they actually saw someone perhaps using a phone. that may be traceable. so i think my take on this is we shouldn't prematurely judge whether they're lone wolves acting with a grievance against government where they're tied to a jihadist organization, or wanna-bes but they moved very quickly in the past 72 hours and i do encourage those who might identify them or run across them do exactly as the fbi has indicated. cal

. >> joining us now by telephone is former secretary of homeland security, tom ridge. secretary ridge, good to have you on the program. from what you know so far, what does this look like to you? >> first off, i want to commend the president. i think he did the right thing by reminding the country that the federal government will put all the resources necessary to bring these individuals to jus is the. we don't know the motive. we don't know the actor, actors or organization. we shouldn't speculate. hereby's what i know or think. this is a very basic device. it's something that anybody could put together if they took the time. i know that targets like this are a concern of every event planner. you have a very storied event. this is one of the world's major marathons. probably attracted more than half a million people. in spiet of all of the good work, i'm quite confident that the people of the marathon did to secure the 26 plus miles through multiple communities, residential centers, communities and commercial areas and the like. you cannot eliminate the risk. >> mr. s

somebody might be able to recognize them. >> tom ridge, a lot of experience at dealing with these things. i appreciate you sharing your wisdom with us. >>> up next, we'll talk to ka carlie soto. her sister was killed at sandy hook. there's this morning's prayer service in boston. "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. we'll be right back. i'm here in your home, having a pretty spectacular tuesday. ♪ but i don't notice the loose rug at the top of your stairs. and that's about to become an issue for me. ♪ and if you got the wrong home insurance coverage, my medical bills could get expensive. so get allstate. [ dennis ] good hands. good home. make sure you have the right home protection. talk to an allstate agent. bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. it's just common

for more on the investigation in boston, i spoke earlier to the former head of homeland security, tom ridge. >> how important is it to get inside their heads, to understand the psychology of these people? >> i think it is critically important. that interview was chilling in what its revealed. it revealed that these two men assimilated, at least superficially, to their environment, their friends, school, athletics. there wasothi unusual in their behavior. nothing unusual in their language to suggest that there was the slightest degree of unrest, any hatred, any anti- american. anything unusual about them. i am afraid this may signal perhaps another kind of terrorist, similaro wha they called grassroots terrorists. they are on assuming. they are assimilated. and we have immigrants that take advantage of the freedoms and liberties year. maybe they were not the way in 2009 and 2010. something may have turned them in the meantime. it is important to figure out what it was. >> ok, now that people are doing the job that he did for so long, the people trying to make america safe, how do you tackle

. >> tom ridge was our country's first secretary of homeland security. >> you have to manage the risksu have specific information about a particular actor, you can't guarantee safety anywhere. >> reporter: so even though police were on duty with plenty of national guard soldiers, someone was able to place two bombs, giving so many second thoughts about being around large crowds. >> what can we do at a large crowd event? what can i do to keep myself safe? >> if you see something, say something. be aware of your environment. >> sounds like the best advice is don't let them affect your life, live your life? >> live your life. when you compromise how you live, that gives them a victory. as painful as it is today, you can't let them succeed, but us changing the norm, changing how we live. >> david kerley, abc news, washington. >> and a riveting picture from this day when we come back. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they'r

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man wearing the white hat and a tan backpack now police officer shot and killed the older brother tom ridge line early this morning but just how far is he got away the events from last night leading into today have been so fluid that the headline is constantly changing so i was joined just a little bit ago by our teams under stasia charkha who is near boston we first talked about what happened last night well maybe you know last night at around five thirty pm local time the f.b.i. released pictures of the two suspects who now we know are two brothers twenty six year olds to milan son and nineteen year old just hearts on these two brothers basically for after the photos were released ended up getting out of their hiding getting into a seven eleven which they robbed hijacked a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got into a. car chase with police as a result of which the older brother to middle on was died out of hospital around one thirty five am local time with several gunshots from police he was said to be carrying an i.e.d. on his body and the younger brother nineteen ye

the clinic had not been, no one has gone to inspect it since 1993 and that is when tom ridge came infice . the grand jury testimony was a purely political decision not to inspect this facility even after a woman died in 2009. they didn't send anybody out to look at it. usually if there is a murder like this the media will ask how did this happen. no one is asking how it happened. >> some of the testimony is unbelievable. i nurse saying that the dr. joked that the baby was so big, the baby could have walked me home. >> it is horrific and it is disgusting and i will give my own theory of why the media is not covering when the debates went on about partial birth abortion. most of the main string treated it as right wing and so called partial abortion and the name meansomething and it was a frank lun spin and that was dishonest. the official position of the president of the united states. what they were doing poorly regulated and he voted against and fought against the act in illinois. barbara boxer said a baby's life doesn't start until they bring it home from the hospital. a lot of peo

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the former homeland security secretary, tom ridge, our first homeland security season. tom, what do you make of what you're hearing and what do you think authorities are trying as they piece this together to collect? >> first of all i think everybody in america is -- feels horrible about what happened to unsuspecting, innocent civilians who were enjoying an historic event. to the families that were affected by this, our sympathies and prayers. to the issue you talked about, it's early at point to ascribe motive or you say there might be one in dust, remains to be seen. it up sos like a basic device, rudimentary device, who knows, a backpack, small box, a bag, something. this is kind of like similar to devices may have been used in the london bombing in 2005, maybe the unibomber. i'm not surprised. the target is a populated area. the finish line at the boston marathon. a lot of people standing around to make a statement, that's the place to make it. a horrible, tragic statement. >> neil: secretary, we're hearing from former massachusetts governor and republican presidenti

. >>> tom ridge was the first director of homeland security, and he joins me now.you heard pete williams. in an investigation, they see a picture, they want to talk to obviously anyone who might be seen putting down a package. that doesn't mean a person is a suspect, but certain -- >> when pete was given the description, it reminded me of the times that you and i, a lot of americans buy those 1,000 or 5,000-piece puzzle. magnify that by a million. they have more pictures or videos that you can imagine, but they'll do it in a me tick las incremental way just as they're picking up pieces of evidence on the scene, they'll do the same thing with the picture puzzle from all the video undoubtedly they received. it's a good and appropriate investigative technique. >> you know what goes on in a situation like this. obviously we have a suspect or suspects at large, who produced a terror attack and killed people. so there is a real impetus to get answers, a political impetus obviously there's pressure to get answers, but at the same time the worst thing would be to go after

joining me is the nation's first secretary of homeland security, governor tom ridge welcome back to the program. i wish it were under better circumstances, of course. >> so do i. >> we always say it, maybe it sounds clicheed, governor, mr. secretary, but i have to tell you we have to be right 100% of the time. >> that's exactly right. >> this is how vulnerable, it reminds us how vulnerable we can be. >> sean, you are spot on. we have to be right all the time. i think mark furman and some of the other guests have eluded to another notion that i think is very important for your audience and the rest of the country to understand. we have a tendency in a just in time world in the united states of mark to look at our watches. we have watches and they have time. every day goes buy and wave been fortunate for almost ten years with the exception of fort hood and a couple other events, but we've been very fortunate. this is a global surge and it's a reality we have to deal with. in spite of all the efforts, and i'm confident that they did everything they could to secure as best they could 26-plu

. >> reporter: tom ridge was the country's first secretary of homeland security. >> you have to manageunless you have information about a particular actor. you can't guarantee safety anywhere. >> though police are in duty with plenty of national guard soldiers some one was able to place two gomz. >> what can we do if we are at a large event is there anything i can do to keep myself safe? >> if you see something, slogan is, say something. about being aware of your environment. if it looks unusual. tell something abit. a -- about it. >> best advice. don't let them affect your life. go back and live your life. >> live your life. when you compromise how you live that gives them a victory. as painful as it is to day. you can't let them succeed by us changing the norm and how we live. can't let them win. no victories. >> i think the last point is so important. you can't let them win. can't say i will not go to the ball game because of what if? that's what they want. >> that's what they want. they want you to stay home and watch this coverage and be too scared to do anything. you have to go o

i'm joined by former secretary of homeland security, tom ridge. former assistant agent in charge of the fbi nypd joint terrorism task force, don borelli, and james cavanaugh, retired special agent in charge for theatf, now an analyst for msnbc. we don't know will it was domestic, foreign, or perhaps an exchange student here. we don't know what mix it might be. >> right. one of the challenges, need to know, journalists need to know, america wants to know, bostonians want to know. everybody is doing their very, very best. as the other individuals sharing this podium, this conversation with you today will tell you have to put together the pieces. it's incremental. it's labor intensive. we'll get there sooner or later. it's a very tough and challenging investigation. >> don borelli, why did it take hours and days decide to go public with pictures they've apparently had now for at least a day or two? >> well, chris, you always want to try to keep the element of surprise on your side. as soon as you release photos and you say, this is the person we're l

. >> reporter: former homeland security secretary tom ridge says the absence of intelligence might suggestiated with a larger terrorist group. >> it may lead to the fact that this was not connected to a major jihadist organization. this might very well have been a domestic terrorist. >> reporter: a lone wolf like eric rudolph responsible for bombings in the mid '90s including the explosion in atlanta's olympic park. officials will look at when monday's attack occurred. this week has been a hot button for domestic extremists. those who analyze previous attacks say the key is to cast a wide net for potential culprits. >> i don't think we can assume that we know who has perpetrated these attacks before we do the investigation. what we have learned is various groups, domestic, international, learn to adapt but they have a common goal in mind which is to kill lots of people and top get lots of attention. >> reporter: the reality, says ridge, it's impossible to guarantee security at every public event. >> they probably had undercover police. they probably had observers on the roof. i suspect the

according to the grand jury report, it's because the state under a pro choice then governor republican tom ridge, decided that inspections would put up a, quote, barrier to women seeking abortions. megyn? >> megyn: unbelievable. all right, molly. thank you. we'll watch. we're on verdict watch as the jury officially has the case and this is a case that has been watched by so many with such passion on both sides of the issue, although i must tell you. even those who favor choice or abortion under limited circumstances have cast a very skeptical eye on this dr. gosnell. >>> upcoming, a nightmare scenario for two parents after a trip to the emergency room for their young son who has a heart condition ends with their baby being taken away by police. you will not believe how this happened to them, and an update in their strange saga today. >>> they are coming in live, so you'll meet the parents. wait until you see their in-home video of the police grabbing their baby. >>> a major milestone today in the george zimmerman trial as we hear from the man himself. we'll take a look at what happened in the co

it was quote, by design, that it was a political decision by the pro choice republicans governor tom ridge'sn that if they-- there were regulations on the book that had been enforced under the pro-life democrat, bob casey, that it would restrict access, and ignored repeated complaints going on in the clinic, not just to the babies, but to the women and it was a horror show for the women in there, even the ones that weren't killed. they were often really butchered, just, i won't-- like i said, it's very graphic what happened to a lot of these women and the descriptions of what you saw when you went in there. so, it was just unbelievable lapse of regulatory oversight, but it wasn't an accident. >> megyn: and just to put a period on what you said, a health department official said in grand jury testimony that health department lawyers changed their legal opinions and advice to suit the policy preferences of different governors n this case she he said the state did not want to be, quote, putting a barrier up to women who wanted abortions and we're not talking again, about abortions in the early

. >> reporter: tom ridge was the country's first secretary of homeland security. >> you have to managepecific information about a particular actor, you can't guarantee safety anywhere. >> reporter: so even though police were on duty in force in boston with plenty of national guard soldiers, someone was able to place two bombs, giving some a question about being around large crowds. what can we do if we are at a large event s there anything i can do to keep myself safe? >> if you see something, the slogan is, say something. about being aware of your environment. if you looks unusual, tell someone about it. >> reporter: best advice, don't let them affect your life. go back and live your life. >> live your life. when you compromise how you live that gives them a victory. as painful as it is to day. you can't let them succeed by us changing the norm and how we live. can't let them win. no victories. >> reporter: david kerley, abc news, washington. >> i think that last point is so important. you can't let them win. you can't say i'm not going to go to that ball game because, what if? that's

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assistant to the president of homeland security from 2001 through 2003, a principal adviser to governor tom ridgelowing the 9/11 attacks. the former vice chairman of the future of terrorism task force, chaired by congressman lee hamilton. he served as senior policy person for the center of strategic and international studies and is currently the director of homeland security policy institute at george washington university. is a next onchigan our democrat line. caller: hi. i just want to know how many warnings the united states needed from russia? they got one call. they should've stayed on it and watched this guy. now they want to blame. blame it's ridiculous. when we get a tip, they should stay on it. i wonder why they're not being held accountable. quit blaming other people from our own mistakes. that's all i have to say. guest: i think you bring up some points. i don't have all the details. i don't think anyone does. keep in mind that the russians of not always been the best of partners in these sorts of endeavour's. i would be very curious what additional information -- if i'm hearing correc

conference of mayors, the national league of cities, more than 800 mayors from across the country: tom ridge, former governor and homeland security secretary. john warner, former senator from virginia. few bills ever had such broad support. and i ask for consent, madam president, to place a list of endorsements carried here into the record. the presiding officer: without objection. mrs. feinstein: i've also received letters and calls from americans across the country, from all walks of life, including gun owners who demand that we stop these weapons of war from claiming more innocent victims. i even had a member of the n.r.a. call me opbd telephone -- on the telephone and say i am a hunter and i have an ar-15, but i don't need it and i am turning it in. i ask to place excerpts from these letters in the record if i may. the presiding officer: without objection. mrs. feinstein: thank you, madam president. to conclude, not every issue we vote on in the senate is a life-or-death matter. i deeply believe this is. since the original federal assault weapons ban expired in 2004, there have been more