. >> as tom said, the boeing 777 is the same type of plane that crashed in san francisco last july, butso considered one of the safest planes in the sky. aviation experts say many of the safety features on board likely saved lives when asiana flight 214 crashed on landing. the model has fire resistant interiors and stronger seats that help during impact. the asiana crash was the first deadly accident involving a boeing 777. >>> more breaking news now. the search for a missing maryland girl and her father is over. caitlyn and timothy virts have been found at a hotel in florence, south carolina. that's more than 400 miles from where caitlyn was taken from her home this dundalk in baltimore county. caitlyn appears to be okay. police say the expansion of the amber alert nationwide appears to have helped them locate the father and daughter. timothy virts took caitlyn from her home yesterday. he is also charged with the death of caitlyn's mother. >>> we're also learning more tonight about the teenad driver behind the wheel of a violent and deadly crash on capitol hill. hunter hairies was fro

tom said no, internet is not a civil right but it should be left as intended, a free exchange of ideas. mark said devil's advocate. we have this tweet that said every city should use the chattanooga as a role model. chattanooga did something fascinating. for $70 a month, chattanooga residents get a fiber cable that is 50 times faster than any access most americans have. do you think this could be replicated in other cities? >> the net neutrality as we look at overall picture of what's going on and going back to netflix and comcast, the net neutrality issue is a radical idea that everyone should have equal access to the internet and the pipes that are coming into our communities. the issue with the netflix deal that they're discussing is that it's becoming just like cable television. what happened with netflix and comcast held netflix's feet to the fire and say your content will suffer unless you pay us. it's a precursor for the types of fight that go on cable providers all the time when an entire city loses access to cbs, nbc or remember there was a big dish network. >> josh, i'm going

said, am i going into a trap here? crazy hors and the ten braves enraged him by mooning him, and that's not in any official trapper history, journal diary, but tom and i said, well, you know, why should i believe this french-canadian trapper who told a priest this and not believe crazy horse's great, great, great, great, great grand nephew? we put it in the book. this is where we got the story, we said, but their tribal tradition to us was just as important as any long lost journal from white people. >> i might call this my awkward and perhaps unfair question. is there a central message from red cloud's life for the american government today and especially when dealing with peoples unlike us? >> well, i think there is. i -- a few months ago, november or december, president obama hosted a counsel of indian elders and tribal members at the white house, and he made this announcement that said that in -- he vowed in 20 # 14 he was going to visit what he called indian country, which sounds like an old-fashioned term, but, and we sort of said, a little tongue-in-cheek, but there's realism to it. well, in preparation, we hope he reads "the heart of eve

tom said to me that they wanted you off the board because they knew you were becoming an that clearlyld be deserving of the prize at some point. >> thank you. >> when you were on the jury, what did you look for? >> there are so many great architects. instead we need to have a stronger message. >> if that is true about you, how do you think you have influenced other architect? started doing the activities working in natural disasters. we made temporary structures for the victims of natural disasters. in 1994tarted doing it after the rwanda crisis, no one was really in the field of disaster. >> why did you do it? >> i was disappointed because we are mainly working for people who have the money and the power. these people are invisible. that thesked to show ise, the money, the power there to the general public but this is the role of the architect for a long time. sought that our experience and knowledge could be used but also for the people who lost their houses in natural disaster. >> this is the spirit of the organization also. >> it speaks to a segment of humanity that is the most ne

>> as tom said, you have to take all of these in rotation, but the whole thing from the beginning, they had a command center. and a command center is so necessary to coordinate everything that's being done. and if they haven't done it now, the family is in an uproar in those rooms that causes them to try to bring information and sometimes it's given too soon. i have three quick things, number one, get grief counselors to every one of those family members. if there's a group of three or four, one counselor in their nationality. not chinese counseling. get those together. we have to think about the family, because now if it's -- if it was in the water, that can standpat because the big emergency now is if they landed on land, then we need to really concentrate on that if that possibility is there, so it isn't launched and cause catastrophe somewhere else. and so that's hugely important. and the families would understand that if they had a counselor there. and then they get briefings every day from that particular crisis management. the other thing is, the command and control center. you h

tom said it led to an argument. >> i'm sorry, i'm seething. >> i've never seen you drink a beer before to. >> did you say a really bad thing today? >> in the confusion that followed, tom believed both boys had been removed from the school. the school believed that it had been tom who asked for his sons to be removed. >> you need to remember it's not your fault, okay? >> i want to go to school tomorrow. i want to be with my friends and my teachers. >> how do you go from him being a wonderful student and everybody loves him to he's not fit for the school because you find out some extra details? you know, it's not us that's the problem. it's the people that don't understand us. >> they didn't say anything to logan or gregg, we had to let them know that today was their last day of school and they didn't get a chance to say good-bye to anybody or to have any knowledge of what was going on at all until they got home. >> hey, gregg, everything's going to be okay, okay? >> we'll work it out and it will be better in the end because if the school feels that way, they're not very nice. >> yeah, w

if that turn is right as tom said, it certainly suggests someone knows what's going on and flying that plane and that has officials looking at the pilot and co-pilot for what they could have done. all of the expertise from all of the different areas and intelligence resources being poured into it, people are scratching their heads. >> china had a satellite and saw imagery. we have eyes on this. very quickly the through its partners and own satellites would switch the trajectory of various satellites and be combing that area for anything you could see. >> some satellites can't be moved and other priorities we have to watch, but to the extent you can use overhead satellite resources to comb this, it's absolutely being combed. but the fact is, this is a massive area. you could have all of the satellites in the world. it's very difficult to get really good coverage of all of these things. there are other methods that the u.s. has of detecting large scale explosions and the like. no indicators there that there was a explosion -- >> none of the normal sensors that would show up -- >> suggest

like tom said. it's far away. ships are slow. weather is bad down there.to be tough. >> jay, where are you on this if, in fact, it is the debris? >> well, there is a theory out there that puts forth a benign mechanical explanation for this. the aircraft on take off might have had damage to the nose tire or the nose wheel assembly such that a fire was started just as it took off and as the gear was retracted into the wheel well. if that were the case, that area would begin to overheat and not far away and up above is the avianics hole. so the smoke from the tire could have gone into that area and heated it up and caused this cascading failure of transponders, radios, and then came up into the aircraft itself including the cockpit. they wouldn't have discovered that necessarily until they were into the flight. and at that point, the pilots would have had to quickly get on their oxygen masks, attempt to get on goggles, deal with this fire and put in -- attempt to make a turn. the cockpit could quickly become engulfed in black smoke and everything could get ha

as tom said, they know something suspicious is going on. they don't know what it was. in this region it's common to have stolen passports especially in thailand. people do travel for reasons other than terrorism on false passports. that's what they're trying to find out. >> but it still begs the question, how in this day and age could the security, the technology we have at airports, how was anybody able to board a flight with a passport that was reported stolen? >> it certainly is troublesome and varies from country to country. entering the united states with a stolen passport, that would almost certainly be picked up by the department of homeland security. but that requires a fairly sophisticated electronic linking of these passports with stolen records held by the international police organization interpol. in this case my current understanding is only one of those passports was reported stolen. hence the malaysians may not have known that one or both were stolen. and it is possible that the airline didn't have all that information. >> so at this point, if you're lo

columnist tom friedman said president vladimir putin has turned his country into a mafi mafia-run petrol state. putin has made his country steadily relianc reliant on natl resources than human ones. why is that important to you? russian has decided to pick a fight with ukraine and supporters around the world, and how those supporters express their displeasure may effect russian economy with risks to its neighbors. >> reporter: global powers to the east and west discuss ways to prevent escalation after the weekend takeover. pro russian troops have taken over and russia said it's not their military. in paris u.s. secretary of state john kerry met with russian foreign ministers sergei lavrov in a session that was intended to be about lebanon. >> the suspending u.s.-russia engagement, and suspending g-8 summit. russia made a choice. we believe it is a wrong choice, the choice to move troops into crimea. >> reporter: on wednesday the european union offered ukraine $15 billion in aid. the same amount russia offered the country before former ukrainian president viktor yanukovych ouster. the e.u

i think what tom said is very telling.the past 12 months you've seen a real shift here in california. people are realizing that one of their major industries is really leaving. you know, these are middle class jobs. we're not talking about studio heads. studios as manny said, they will go where the money is. that is the bottom line. it should be. they're responsible to shareholders and responsible to profit motives. what we're seeing here is a shift. you're seeing it happen politically, finally in sacramento. you mentioned about mayor garcetti. up in sacramento, couple weeks ago we saw a new bill to expand and reform california's tv and film tax incentive programing. this could lead to uncapping of blockbusters, a huge deal. return of network shows, massive deal, and more importantly more money in the pile. will they go up to the 420 of new york? probably not but they are going to rise. adam: melissa: manny i give you last word. i lived in politics a long time. i believe the politics are set as they are. i'm not sure they

it showed the northern ark and the southern ark and as tom said, the northern ark is peppered with defense. someone would have seen something. >> thanks very, very much. we will do it again. you can always tweet me more questions. if you have other questions about flight 370, use the tag and 10:00 p.m. eastern and we will host a special report on flight 370. he and his expert panel will answer many more of your questions. much more coverage coming up and it's official now. russia's president signs the paper officially annexing crimea to the russian federation with as many as 20,000 troops on the border with ukraine, it was more of a moralality. will putin want more? >> much more on the mystery of flight 370. the two sides in the fight for the future of ukraine with pens. moments after the russian parliament passed the treaty, a necking crimea. vladimir putin signed it and they take ownership. in response, they signed a trade agreement with the european union. it was a dispute over closer ties that led to the current crisis. the crisis is growing more tense as russia tightens the grip. they

it is hard to see, but i think as tom said it is hard to see what the lawyers see. i don't know what they would allow, it would be helpful to hear from other flight crew that flew with him, to see into his company records i think would help us complete the puzzle. >> what do you make of the fact -- i know it drives you crazy, kathleen, to hear somebody talk about the flight simulator, you say it is not a machine, basically a simulator you can get on the cheap. >> he has kind of a jerry rigged set-up at home. that is not to say anything negative about it. i keep hearing that it is like an expensive piece of equipment -- >> let's talk about the deleted files on february 3rd. what does it mean to you? >> at this point it means nothing, we all delete files all the time. on his flight device, he is trying to maintain space -- >> what if they found deleted routes that mean suspicious? >> what does that mean? as a simulator instructor, we put all kinds of crazy airlines that we may never have flown into. so i think that by itself, i am really glad the fbi is in on this. un

as tom said, there's been improvements. you can't call the government inefficient anymore.other hand, the drip, drip, drip of resignations, resignations, resignations because of corruption and convictions is what's hurting the city right now. >> there's been an effort of reform ever since tony williams became mayor. the city was nearly bankrupt in the '90s. tony williams came in, changed a lot of things around. adrien fente came in, changed a lot of things around, including schools. and mayor gray, a lot of the people thought he would not do it. he has done that, too. but he's got this scandal hanging over his head. >> to what extent, tom, is it significant that washington, d.c., could have a mayor again for the first time in years, something that we saw in new york, obviously a female candidate got very close. but she seems to have a real shot at this. >> she does, because again, she's moving up in the polls, and they're quite confident in her campaign, she'll win on tuesday. we haven't had a female mayor since the early '90s, sharon pratt dixon was elected back then. wasn

but it really raises the issue with what tom said. to have the data recorders and the voice recorders looked at again. longer batteries so that they can be recovered over a longer period of time, longer time on the voice recorder. should be a 24-hour period. >> why don't they have that? what's the problem? >> well, there's been a variety of oppositional positions. pilots don't like it. that's the main reason. >> that's not a good reason. >> well, it's a tough one. it's their work environment. they believe that the voice recorders intruding on their work environment and they've made some very persuasive arguments. >> you could make the case of school bus drivers have a video camera on them all the time. why shouldn't pilots who have hundreds of people at risk have a camera in there as well? >> absolutely. and there's enormous protections on who gets access to the voice recorder. that can be extended to video recorders. it's seldom violated. i think it's time to extend the voice recorders beyond 30 minutes. >> i think i agree with you o

>> as tom said earlier in his piece, you know, anything that's 78 or 79, 80 feet, there's only two possibilities really, one is part of the wing section, you have a wing span of over 200 feet. that means each wing is better than 100 feet. then of course the fuselage is around 200 feet long and again, it could be a portion of the fuselage structure, whether it's the crown, or side panel with the window belt or belly section, we're not really sure. the satellite fidelity is not that good as far as what we're seeing in the public, s australians may have better pictures, that's probably what gave the prime minister some confidence that this is credible evidence. but again, we haven't seen it and until we get an airplane that can fly low enough to give us a good visual sighting with good optics and pictures of that or we have a sea vessel, either this cargoship or one of the military ships going in there, we really won't know and unfortunately in the place it's a. we don't have assets that close to that piece of debris. >> michael, talk about the race against time. we spoke about this with tom costel

so they're going to do a character study because with this new information, as tom said, this was premeditated. this wasn't something that was done on the fly because the acars basically recorded an artifact that 12 minutes before, at least this flight plan, whatever it was was already in the system. >> to be clear, though, it was premeditated that there would be this second route, the route that did not go to beijing. it's not necessarily true that is nefarious. it's possible that could have been entered there, as you say, as some sort of emergency response plan "b" for the pilot to activate in the case of some sort of unforeseen fire in the cockpit or something. so we don't know that this means motivation. we just know that it means deliberation. >> correct. somebody would have had to execute to bring that secondary flight plan up as the primary then. >> let me also ask you, we're trying to match deliberation to motivation to the question of who. >> yes. >> is there any way that the information in that system, that waypoint to waypoint to eventual landing point information in that system cou

so the airplane could continue well beyond it and taken, as tom said, into the indian ocean if not further. >> greg, why is there some ambiguity about whether or not the plane was spotted on this military radar in that spot? >> well, one of the concerns is that the civilian radar interrogates the transponders on the air. the transponders provide very dis-crete information, amountitude, speed and actually has a data tag that identifies it as mh-370. the radar that the military is using doesn't have a dis-crete tag. it just says that there is an object at this location. the radar hits it and it bounces -- it bounces out there and we can't tell how high or how fast. >> want to take a look at one other map. the airline says that this plane had seven hours worth of fuel at takeoff, so if we're considering it could have gone in potentially any direction, potentially in the direction of the hard left turn or the general radius, this is the radius of area that this plane could potentially be in. this is a huge, huge area. >> and this is what makes it such a challenge, not only for investigators wa

>> as tom said, it is a long way from perth. it is an awfully big ocean. it is just a matter of time and good weather. we need some luck. we need the weather to break. those pieces will turn out. -- up. >> you led the expedition to find the air france jet. what did you learn from that and what should we avoid this time? >> i was a coleader. it was a huge program. it was very methodical. circle so that certainee, joina we knew the plane was inside their and mapping the sea floor. >> i do not want to get it to classified information, but i am curious is about the -- about the aircraft and the work with the severance. how important our submarines to the search? >> they could be very important in terms of learning where the pinger is. the french had their summary and involved in the air france search. they never heard the pinger at all. the ocean can play funny games with sound. it could be very important. >> thank you so much. look forward to speaking to you again. dr. gallo with the woods hole institute. jason is the chief investment strategist -- i was dazz

as tom ammiano said, there will be people who simply will not be able to afford to enroll in the aca. therefore, i have asked the city attorney's office to clarify eligibility requirements for healthy san francisco to ensure that the program remains open not only to the city's undocumented residents, but to other groups of immigrants who are excluded from subsidized exchange coverage. medi-cal and medicare, to ensure that it's accessible to dependents who are disqualified for exchange subsidies because their family members have received offers of affordable individual coverage, payer with unaffordable dependent coverage and to other individuals who are exempt from the individual mandate provisions of the aca. the final point, final principle that will be at the heart of this ordinance is that in order to maximize the uptick of health insurance recover california, the legislation will direct the department of public health to educate employer and employees more urgently on the options available for them to utilize employer's required contributions and access federal subsidies towards t

i want to build on what tom and meta said. those definitions of off space in the planning code, it was hard fought. there were wars around it in the early '80s. it permeates definition for the trigger for paying for housing, for paying for transit. the planning department is the greatest nonenforcer of the law, of office space that i have ever seen. i track, to my ability, a lot of changes that are happening and i'm finding out that planning department staff is authorizing thing as tenant improvements right and left. tenant improvement in an area, in a building that is all putting factory -- being changed into a .com -- sorry, i have .com in my head. that is how we lose a neighborhoodvthv. every time we use this change that is more than 300 square feet, they're required to pay ~ pidf. how many tidfs, transit impact development fee, ~ have been paid for projects or planning department process? minuscule. how many of them have paid housing fees? nonexistent. we have -- are losing pdf that is legitimately pdf. i'll give you one,

it was a request that the saudi arabian government reported but the colorado government said no, specifically tomhe received and reviewed the request from mr. al turkey he should move home to saudi arabia, he received that request, and then on march 11th of last year, tom clemens wrote him a letter explaining that the transfer request was denied. that happened on march 11th. that was a monday. the following weekend on march 17th, there was a mysterious murder in colorado, this was nbc coverage from local channel 9 at the time. >> he was delivering pizza when police believe he was murdered, 27-year-old nathan leone from commerce city was shot. his car was found near east 50th avenue in denver, his body turned up miles away in golden off south runy road. >> someone called from a pay phone at this sapp brother's gas station near 270 and 49th avenue. told dominos to deliver a pizza to 50th and forest, a desserted corner an industrial part of denver. police later found his body 18 miles away in golden. family members tell 9 news he was shot in the chest. >> people find anything suspicious in any of th

tom dellis said the administration should be worried. a stays out speaker, vying for kay hagan's seat. we did call hagan, and haven't gotten a call back. this delay is why it is a an issue. >> since its first passage, if affected every state. certainly affected north carolina. we have 450,000 north carolynians who received cancellation noticed. only a fraction of people set up through the federal exchange. >> wait, how many joined the exchange? >> somewhere under 200 thousand have sign had up. that's probably a generous number. >> so is that net new insurance or net decline. >> net decline. everyday it is another layer of uncertainty. there is great progress on tax and regulatory reform. but it get bride elled by the uncertainty coming out of this president. >> when you talk to the democrat and presidents a lot. or is the concern that it is a surprise? do they not hear a -- the is not tore pointed out and those opposing the law point out, it will get stable. it is going to get better. all these problems will work out. and it will die dow

as tom said, once we had the airplane, now a lot of the questions will be answered. although the background work we do on the passengers, the crew, the maintenance records is a normal portion of the investigation. once you get the airplane, now you can get those little pieces that fit that whole mosaic together so we can determine what it is that caused the airplane to -- the loss of the airplane. with a pretty high probability. we'll never know for sure, but we'll have a very good idea what happened and hopefully we'll learn enough from that to prevent this type of event from occurring again in the future. that's the ultimate goal. >> david funk, tom fuentes, appreciate it. >>> still to come -- high in the air with no fuel. what happens to a boeing 777 on auto pilot? we'll take you to our simulator next. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know bad news doesn't always travel fast? (clears throat) hi mister tompkins. todd? you're fired. well, gotta run. geico. fifteen minutes could save you

. >> for years, tom said he imagined his father was lot of and wandering in the jungle and waiting toe rescued. >> so far. >> as an adult he made a pilgrimage to the crash site. visiting the memorial has been a part of the acceptance. a monument or something he thinks that is something the families will need as well as each other. >> they should stay together and communicate and find the experiences that told people to have the shared experience. >> and memories. he enjoys listening to his recordings and sharing them with his children. the grieving process is yet to begin. families are still in shock and some in denial. >> it's not something which goes away quickly. you do have to get used to it. it's a lifetime of processing the belief. it's a phase of something you have. it does get easier, but it never goes away. that sense of loss never ever goes away. >> kuala lumpur, malaysia. >> back to the coverage of the still missing plane, the big story, these pictures. investigators are looking at the satellite imagery, this one showing 300 objects in the ocean. chaotic currents and wild w

you can come up with all sorts of scenarios as tom said. maybe try flying under the golden gate bridge. now you would never do that, but that's the beauty of a simulator. you get the chance to do something you would never try in real life. just because something shows up in a simulator does not mean that's what a pilot intended to do. >> thanks as always. >> you're welcome, carol. >>> still to come in the "newsroom," hundreds of miles above the indian ocean, satellites may hold the key of unlocking the mystery of flight 370. how helpful can the images be if they're delayed for several days? weel we'll talk about that next. it's a growing trend in business: do more with less with less energy. hp is helping ups do just that. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. multiply that across over a thousand locations, and they'll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. that's a trend we can all get behind. so our business can be o

as tom said at the outset that trajectory according to pugh forum.it is one of the reasons the conversation with respect to doing that with congressman flores, the congress in 1993 said let's do something about, restoration. a that is a great word. a restoration of the culture of religious freedom. we open this up to the audience, let me remind us all by william o. douglas. been what shall i say? he was a secular person by reputation. not that you be not judged but a great friend of freedom with him oragreed not, he was a great friend of freedom and wrote in one of his the court just speak for hillself, speaking speaking off, america we are a religious people whose institutions being.ose a supreme when you return to the declaration, when you return to those founding principles and the founding what i think the founding generation was really lifting up for all of us were the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our pos tarity. join me in saying thank you to alan dershowitz. [applause] and now we hear from the audience. >> that's right. thelet me jus

. >> charlie: you said i see this prize as to encourage me to keep doing what i'm doing. not to change what i'm doing but to grow. >> yes. >> charlie: tom just said to me that they wanted you off the board, off the jury because they knew that you were becoming an architect that clearly would be deserving of the prize at some point. >> thank you for saying that. >> charlie: when you were on the board, the jury, what did you look for? >> it was not so difficult because there are so many great architects that have not received the award yet, so this is a competition between the many great architects but also that we need to have some important message. so we are looking for an architect who influence other architects instead of just being the star. we needed to have the message. >> charlie: and if that's true about how, how do you think you've influenced other architects? >> if i can say that i started doing the activities, working in natural disasters, which the architects have not done like being in the disaster area looking for the problem and making the temporary structure for the victims of the natural disaster. i must say when i star

families informed, but stunning for them to get a text message or an e-mail telling them that news as tom said, the text message we are told to the chinese families said we deeply regreet we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that mh-370 is lost and none of those on board has survived. it is difficult to see here. the families watching and hearing the prime minister making that announcement on television. guys. >> keir simmons, thank you. >> let's go to bob hager who followed nbc news for 25 years. the authorities say this is in the southern indivisiblan ocean. how do you prevent this from happening again? >> what we don't know is why he said that. i assume that means they made a positive identification of one of the pieces of wreckage. that is just the beginning of it. you really need these black boxes to tell you what went on in the airplane. >> to have a chance to find the black boxes which are pinging now for 13 more days. you have to get a piece of the wreckage. >> you have the tow the device from behind the ship. >> at a low speed. >> the pinger will last a bit longer. if you get

projects, you'd think you'd get an ulcer or you'd burn out early. >> i remember one of our investors said, "tomw do you live with this?" and i said, "well, henry, it's your money." [ laughs ] >> perkins is now a partner emeritus at the firm he founded. he seemed about ready to sail off into the sunset when suddenly, at age 74, his life and legacy took a controversial turn. as a member of hewlett-packard's board of directors, he played a role in the 2005 sacking of carly fiorina, the computer giant c.e.o., and a year later, the ouster of its chairman of the board, pattie dunn. they both went public on "60 minutes" and, in separate interviews, accused him of engineering their dismissals. is it possible that part of the problem was that you just couldn't accept that there were women in control, here? no, it's a serious question. >> i realize it's a serious question, and i also realize that i'm gonna be accused of "he hates women, and he fires them, or he can't stand them," or whatever. you know, maybe -- >> not hates women, but just can't stand that they're in control -- that they're in charge. th

>> conversely on "this week" democrat tom daschle said this type of crisis was precisely the reason whyobama's brand of leadership was needed. >> what kind of attention would -- >> well, he called early on for a military action plan for nato working with georgia to try to deal with these issues preemptively, try to deal with them in a much more aggressive way up front. >> senator daschle's hopes notwithstanding, president obama's more collaborative report does not seem to have changed the putin dynamic much i think it's fair to say. susan, it is remarkable to listen to the president saying the same exact words after these different excursions. >> i think it's important to remember that american foreign policy generally does not change that much from administration to trags. just like russia has certain national interests, so does the united states. so of course we're going to say that. what's really striking is you have to remember this is russia's backyard. these are countries that were not only part of the soviet union, directly border on russia, in reality what all the punditry obscu

when feder man stopped and said am i going into the a trap, crazy horse enraged him by mooning him. and that is not in any official trapper history, journal diaries, but tom and i said, well why should i believe this french canadian trapper who told this priest this and not believe crazy horse's great, great, great grandnephew. and he said this is where he got the story. but their tribal tradition to us was just as important as the long lost journals from white people. >> i might call this my awkward and perhaps unfair question: is there a central message from red clouds life for the american government today and especially when dealing with people unlike us? >> well, i think there is. a few month ago, i believe either november or december, president obama io hosted a counsel of indian elders and vowed he was going to visit indian country in 2014. that sounded like an old fashion term. but there is tongue and cheek and he said he hope in preparation he reads "the heart of everything that is" because so much of the relationship with the tribes, you can see the roots of that relationship in this story. not to get too far side or too specific about it, but t

and yet as tom farr said at the outset, that is the trajectory according to the pew forum. so it's one of the reasons this conversation and this effort with respect to doing that which congressman flores, the congress in 1993 said let's do something about it, let's have a restoration. that's a great word, a restoration of the culture of religious freedom. as we open this up to the audience, let me remind us all of a quote by william o. douglas. william o. douglas may not have been -- what shall i say? he was a pretty secular person by reputation at least, judge not that ye be judge, but a great friend of freedom. whether you agreed with him or not, he was a great friend of freedom. and he wrote in one of his preponderances for the court, not just speaking for himselfs speaking of america, we are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a supreme being. when you return to the declaration, when you return to those founding principles and the founding, what i think the founding generation was really lifting up for all of us were the blessings of liberty for ourselves a

tom paine said these are the times that try men's souls. we have the power to begin the world al over again. and he beat he could do that in the cold war. just a few weeks after jimmy carter was inaugurated and richard allen came out here to california and he said my idea of the simple. we went iwe win and if they los. what do you think of that and everybody at that point would have thought you're crazy. you are going to defeat the empire and the soviet union? he thought he could do it. probably it was most identified with lower taxes and in particular were federal income taxes, and even more specifically the federal progressive graduated income tax. does anyone know when the income tax became permanent in america? 1913. a little over a hundred-years-old. passed by woodrow wilson, passed by the congress this required an amendment to the constitution that is something of a deal this was. the idea of a permanent graduate of progressive income tax totally new in america. we have been here since 70s. this is after the. when woodrow wilson put i

. >> since you have the socks with the 121, and you saidtoms is doing the --said tom is shoes, and youglasses, when is one going to go for pants? [laughter] no, seriously. theme thated on a was neutral, that could lend itself to a number of products. atfuture years, we will look shirts, and hopefully expand into athletic wear. >> with the same -- >> we will sell one, we will donate one. >> there are lots of reasons why socks are the most requested item at homeless shelters. >> they are aware through item? >> exactly. >> well done. gentlemen, how many have you sold so far? what is the goal? >> we have sold over 60,000 pair to date. >> 60,000 pair to date? one-size-fits-all? >> we have men's, women's, teens and in the next two weeks we will be launching our kids socks . >> we have. horrible samples -- very ad orable samples on hand. >> thank you very much for joining us, randy goldberg and david heap of bombas. speak withup next, i the u.k. supermodel on what it takes to find the next kate moss. that is next on "taking stock." ♪ >> all right, this is "taking stock" on bloomberg. i am pim

tom wheeler has said before he was confirmed that he could use the opportunity of a merger to impose conditions that he cannot get through the front door. that is very attractive. he sees that and he wants to take advantage of that opportunity. >> with the recent success of wireless at t-mobile, is that suggesting that maybe t-mobile could stand alone and go to a stronger competitor? ironically, their own success results in their less likely to sell the company? , people say they will take about a quarter of new additions in this coming year. they are really attracting buzz and energy. it is a wonderful company. great ceo. i can see them having their own folks. -- voice. i see t-mobile having a different kind of character at this point. >> last time i spoke with the t-mobile ceo, you sort of indicated he wanted to run a combination of that happened. who would run this thing? >> the people with the deeper pockets. i do think it is unlikely. i think they will try to get more low band spectrum. it will keep grabbing customers and coming up with innovative pricing plans. all of that is g