, tom slater, who recently wrote an article titled why they hate cars. he green elites have no idea how most people live . i idea how most people live. i mean, tom, let's start off by asking that simple question. i mean, how many of us are actually using our cars over pubuc actually using our cars over public transport? it's a shocking number, isn't it ? shocking number, isn't it? >> it is. and this is one thing that never figures in the debate, darren, is it? so according to official government statistics, in the last year that we have numbers for 2021, it was 88% of all passenger kilometres travelled in the uk were in a car that could be a personal car, that could be a taxi. and yet you would think that vast numbers of people were cycling, were taking public transport. but i think so much of this is a reflection as in so many other issues that the people who make decisions, the people who make decisions, the people who make decisions, the people who write about policy in this are quite unusual. this country are quite unusual. and all live in one area, a

, tom slater, who recently wrote an article titled why they hate cars. he green elites have no idea how most people live . i idea how most people live. i mean, tom, let's start off by asking that simple question. i mean, how many of us are actually using our cars over pubuc actually using our cars over public transport? it's a shocking number, isn't it ? shocking number, isn't it? >> it is. and this is one thing that never figures in the debate, darren, is it? so according to official government statistics, in the last year that we have numbers for 2021, it was 88% of all passenger kilometres travelled in the uk were in a car that could be a personal car, that could be a taxi. and yet you would think that vast numbers of people were cycling, were taking public transport. but i think so much of this is a reflection as in so many other issues that the people who make decisions, the people who make decisions, the people who make decisions, the people who write about policy in this are quite unusual. this country are quite unusual. and all live in one area, a

now joining us this morning, editor of spiked tom slater, and author and broadcaster nikki hodgson. verynks very much for joining us. first of all, either of a sunbed hugger ? of you, a sunbed hugger? >> nikki, tom and i were having a about in the green a chat about this in the green room, weren't we? well i'm room, weren't we? well on i'm not. but what i was saying is i don't it when people leave don't like it when people leave the towel for the whole day. the towel on for the whole day. i mind the morning banking i don't mind the morning banking it and being on it, but then when they leave the whole afternoon british, afternoon and being british, i find so hard, know, find it so hard, you know, i could just take it off put could just take it off and put my own couldn't i use it? my own on, couldn't i use it? but don't feel able to do that but i don't feel able to do that and i feel really resentful. i did it recently, a two weeks ago, and i was in greece for a few i sat there seething, few days. i sat there seething, looking bed. i was thinking, looking at bed. i was thinking, you're b

joining us this morning, editor of spiked tom slater and author and broadcaster nicky hodgson. om. superb. so right, tom. >> let's kick off the ongoing inquest, which is going to be extraordinary. now into the circumstances surrounding lucy letby . i mean, it looks like now letby. i mean, it looks like now the whistleblower says the doctors who were correct and often were forced to apologise are now, after the managers tell us more. us more. >> us more. >> well, that's one of the details about this, which is so shocking. obviously, there's the horror of the crimes themselves, but also there's the detail that have since come out of the way in which time after time you have particularly consulted . but have particularly consulted. but other worked the other people who worked at the hospital lucy letby raising hospital with lucy letby raising these even one these concerns, even at one point, being point, as you say, being forced to this letter to to sign this apology letter to her specifically , it seems like her specifically, it seems like there was such an incentive on there was

. >> well, let's get more now from the editor of spiked online, tom slater. ood morning to you, tom. have you tom. really good to have you with i think most people with us. i think most people would wouldn't that would agree, wouldn't they, that it's to be it's not sustainable to be spending million day spending £6 million a day on migrant hotels is. but the fact is, no flights taken to is, no flights have taken off to rwanda . we can't even get 50 rwanda. we can't even get 50 people onto a barge. so in the meantime, that's what we've got to do, right? >> well, i think what's striking is that if we're talking is that even if we're talking aboutin is that even if we're talking about in terms of housing migrants we're migrants on barges or we're talking putting them on talking about putting them on raf this going to raf bases, this is going to happen sites across the happen at three sites across the country. that's already sign country. that's already a sign of it's a sign of of failure. it's a sign of failure that they haven't been able to get a grip on this pr

but actually i read a brilliant piece tonight by tom slater, the editor of spiked, who had done lotsnto this and lots of research into this and very quickly discovered that actually the media would also run pictures of, for example, a muslim terrorist as a child, describing him as angelic. so they are looking for racism where it simply doesn't exist . where it simply doesn't exist. >> they are promoting their own brand of what they're calling this whiteness. and she was protected by whiteness. but dr. shola doesn't first of all, the first doctor that reported this was white lucy. lucy letby is white. some of the people in management may well have been black or asian or of other races. what is she talking about? did the black people perpetuate the white privilege as well that she's talking about her view? it's so simplistic . as well that she's talking about her view? it's so simplistic. i think that this is a black and white thing when it's got nothing with colour. this nothing to do with colour. this woman is a murderer. she murdered people knowing exactly how to do it. got away wit

but actually i read a brilliant piece tonight by tom slater, the editor of spiked, who had done lotsnto this and lots of research into this and very quickly discovered that actually the media would also run pictures of, for example, a muslim terrorist as a child, describing him as angelic. so they are looking for racism where it simply doesn't exist . where it simply doesn't exist. >> they are promoting their own brand of what they're calling this whiteness. and she was protected by whiteness. but dr. shola doesn't first of all, the first doctor that reported this was white lucy. lucy letby is white. some of the people in management may well have been black or asian or of other races. what is she talking about? did the black people perpetuate the white privilege as well that she's talking about her view? it's so simplistic . as well that she's talking about her view? it's so simplistic. i think that this is a black and white thing when it's got nothing with colour. this nothing to do with colour. this woman is a murderer. she murdered people knowing exactly how to do it. got away wit

among the outrage spiked online, writer tom slater wrote a police force that prioritises the hurt feelingsing of a vulnerable young person has lost the moral plot. a review of the arrest by west yorkshire's police professional standards watchdog is ongoing, but the girl's mother has now pledged to sue the force. so neil oliver, what's your take on this? was was this the police going too far to protect the feelings of a lesbian officer ? i mean, it lesbian officer? i mean, it certainly backfired on them, hasn't it ? well certainly backfired on them, hasn't it? well. i'll certainly backfired on them, hasn't it ? well . i'll absolutely not. >> so very long ago, dan , the >> so very long ago, dan, the police service and it was a service in this country like the i don't know, the fire service and the ambulance service . and the ambulance service. >> the police service existed and was there to look after the people to keep people safe , to people to keep people safe, to make them feel safe . and i make them feel safe. and i suppose , you know, to round up suppose, you know, to round up the baddi

among the outrage spiked online, writer tom slater wrote a police force that prioritises the hurt feelings a vulnerable young person has lost the moral plot. a review of the arrest by west yorkshire's police professional standards watchdog is ongoing, but the girl's mother has now pledged to sue the force. so neil oliver, what's your take on this? was was this the police going too far to protect the feelings of a lesbian officer ? i mean, it lesbian officer? i mean, it certainly backfired on them, hasn't it ? well certainly backfired on them, hasn't it? well. i'll certainly backfired on them, hasn't it ? well . i'll absolutely not. >> so very long ago, dan , the >> so very long ago, dan, the police service and it was a service in this country like the i don't know, the fire service and the ambulance service . and the ambulance service. >> the police service existed and was there to look after the people to keep people safe , to people to keep people safe, to make them feel safe . and i make them feel safe. and i suppose , you know, to round up suppose, you know, to round up the baddies so