tom tunney, reuben, junius, and rose. just a couple of quick points. i think a common theme you've heard from the speakers to this point actually identifies the description of this matter is a bit of a misnomer. this -- we're not proposing nor is anybody looking to get approval for retail conversions. what's happening in this district is that the property owners are left with vacant spaces. they're trying to make use of vacant space, so it's not a retail conversion, in fact, a means of activating the district. when you last met to discuss these issues, you asked for additional study and information about what was happening on the second and third floors, and we very much support the research that was done by the b.i.d. and oewd, and i'd like to highlight a couple of the details of that research. ms. brodsky pointed out at the take out the westfield center, the vacancies are 9% in the center, and they're trending up. that wasn't spoken to in the staff report, and we've learned more. the b.i.d. identified in its submittal, if you get outside the center o