i told tom vilsack that he has presided over the largest increase in exports in the history of the united states. part of that is because i think they have done a very good job working with the private sector. and so these tensions are always going to exist. and i just think that they have to be worked out as sensibly as possible. we have to understand that the markets have to be open as well in order for us to continue the pressure to break down the barriers. most of them are outside the united states and quite frankly the barriers are much greater than they are for people to try to get into the markets overall. >> another question. >> let me exercise this. agriculture figured, motley in the united states and up until the mid-1950s, the minute it went into steep decline and nothing declined more proportionately than agriculture research within that foreign aid to agriculture agenda. members of the house have returns, how do we get research with new technologies and how we get the kind of research commitment that it's going to take, and how do we get to feed the people of today? >> that t

i have something i'm very proud of, i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago, i said you allowed gmo alphafa. he says we all have to get along, we -- i have two sons, and i love them both equally, which is organic and industrial. >> i said with all due respect, one of your sons is a bully, and he said we can all, you know, we can get along and live together, we just need to work it out. >> i said gmos can contaminate organic but organic can't contaminate gmos. but i know a person that i met with from a seed company that met with mon tanto like 156 years ago. they were promoting coexistence. they say there is no such thing, you will control your way into contaminating every field, and the guy smiled and said i know. he told me that story and it was totally private, not recorded, and i just thought oh, man. that is their strategy, promote this false ideal of coexistence that anyone but a moron would know is unnatural and impossible to do, and gradually have gmo creep, and then it's game over. very dangerous. coexistence, that whole idea should be compl

i have something i'm very proud of, i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago, i said you allowed gmo alphafa. he says we all have to get along, we -- i have two sons, and i love them both equally, which is organic and industrial. >> i said with all due respect, one of your sons is a bully, and he said we can all, you know, we can get along and live together, we just need to work it out. >> i said gmos can contaminate organic but organic can't contaminate gmos. but i know a person that i met with from a seed company that met with mon tanto like 156 years ago. they were promoting coexistence. they say there is no such thing, you will control your way into contaminating every field, and the guy smiled and said i know. he told me that story and it was totally private, not recorded, and i just thought oh, man. that is their strategy, promote this false ideal of coexistence that anyone but a moron would know is unnatural and impossible to do, and gradually have gmo creep, and then it's game over. very dangerous. coexistence, that whole idea should be compl

i was able to question tom vilsack at a conference i was at a couple years ago. so i said, you've allowed gmo alfalfa, it's a perennial, they didn't used to spray it, and now you know, it can contaminate non-gmo how can you justify your actions? he says well we all have to get along. we have -- i have two sons. i love them both equally. which is organic and industrial. and so i said with all due respect, sir, one of your sons is a bully and he goes oh! and then he said, he said, we can all -- he said we can get along. we can live together. we just need to get in a room and work it out. i said gmos can contaminate organic. organic can't contaminate gmos. and he was like what? but i think that -- but i know a person that met with from a seed company that met with monsanto many, you know like 15 years ago, when this was starting. tand they were promoting coexistence. and he said there really is no such thing as coexistence they'll just contaminate your way into every field. and he said the guy looked at him and smiled and said, i know. now he told me that story and