>> you also mentioned net neutrality which is often wrapped up in the privacy debate during the tom wheeler area and one -- era and that issue never dies and it continues and to see about possibly in the next few weeks but given that this was seen to act versus telecom battle over a decade now ten has bigger fish to fry it or not in the same way to get policymakers to pay attention to is that diminish how that matters? because there seems to be a lot of fatigue from what i can see that is a great way to put it. i thank you are right. but in some ways it is less they have other things on the plate but one of the reasons this debate generated and not to go good guys versus bad guys and cable where the bad guys. but right now they are all bad guys. there are no bite had in the room anymore. so a lot of the moral energy behind neutrality has been drained away and now i leave east so i probably overestimate how much people have thought about it but it seems to me that to some extent it has been exposed for what it always was which is a commercial dispute between two set of companies one that are

tom wheeler did his rules, we were on capitol hill saying, legislate. the authority issue that has been exposed in court proceedings, this is not constitutional authority. it is not biblical authority. it is not written in the 10 commandments. it is statutory authority! which means congress has the ability to fix it. and henry waxman came close in 2010 and all that we have been consistently saying is, let congress do his job. they should create a new title, for broadband. they can impose and by the way, chris, we are fine with specific rules, defined rules, with fcc jurisdiction. no problem with that. and i think there is a consensus among most reasonable legislators, among the industry that it is time to put these rules in place and move on. and when you are talking, you said that this is beyond the point where it is about the rules itself, it is about and he said, some people say it is about law. i don't think it is about law. i think he said there were two things. i'm not sure you got to the second thing. i would say what this has become is all about

the last deal fell apart in 2014 when doj and then-fcc chairman tom wheeler warned any deal to reduce wireless carriers in the u.s. to three would not be approved. tom wheeler joins us from washington >> great to be back. >> we had a big discussion with these ceos about the notion of timing and i'm wondering if the third time is the charm given where we are as a country right now. >> i'll stipulate that john ledger is the world's greatest salesman, but what he's selling right now is old stuff you are trading the fact they have benefited as a result of this prices are down 13% in the last 12 months. you're trading that certainty for the promise that maybe this new premium technology of 5g will change the nature of the network. and what's really interesting is that both of these ceos, before they did the deal, said we're going to be great in 5g, major players in 5g. we're going to bring competition in 5g. all those promises have disappeared all of a sudden. >> tom, let me ask you about the 5g urgency that it sounds like john has really communicated and they're trying to make the case th

once before, 14, tom wheeler, who ran the fcc said no way, we're not going to let you do this this time fcc is considered to be a lot more potentially willing to listen. perhaps more lenient but the doj where this will also end up and whether they will allow four competitors to go to three, particularly after the price competition that has been so favorable to so many consumers over the last five years as t-mobile has been so aggressive may not continue. well, that's the question. the two companies talking about their expectations of spending billions to build out 5 g, and it's important to the national security of the united states. talking about growing competition they're facing from cable companies such as comcasts that are moving more aggressively into the wireless industry but question still is will it be enough another question actually is while this regulatory review goes on and on, will sprint still be the tough competitor it has been to t-mobile here is marcelo claure >> we don't back off as a matter of fact, we're even looking for friends right now. tomorrow we go back to com

at the time, then-chairman tom wheeler said four national wireless providers is good for american consumers the deal fell apart. new fcc chair has given no such limit on wireless providers, though it is not certain how the justice department's anti-trust boss will react to the union. it'll likely be argued the wireless environment is different than it was in 2014. with more low-cost carriers popping up, including one from msnbc parent company, comcast. they'll argue a combined effort is the only way for the companies to build a reliable 5g network, something the trump administration has labeledprior. the argument they are making here is, if you want us to compete, if you want to fwgive e american people a viable option, we have to have the money and the scale to do it. >> here's the issue. alex sherman from cnbc, a technology reporter, joins us now. the question people have, most people assume when you merge two big companies into one, it is less competition, which is going to mean higher prices. here's the counterargument. there are always higher prices in cell phones anyway. the airline i

you have tom wheeler writing in "the new york times" about being , but need more open apis at the sameime, we have a push to close them down because of privacy. to be fair to facebook, i would be like, what the hell do you want us to do? >> we can look at things to exist. maybe it just needs to become a -- be codified -- fair information practices. it is a data governance framework. most privacy advocacy experts are very well-versed in it. it is outdated in some ways, but offers a good way to think about how to govern data well. when i say obligations on researchers, that does not mean restrictions in terms of this is a good project or this is not a good project. but it is about privacy and security restrictions and requirements. maybe limiting the amount of the data, the scope of the data, the reason you're collecting the data. those kinds of requirements really do not exist right now. that would be a step forward. >> we have time for two more questions. >> thank you, my name is david, i am a researcher that has been looking into this cambridge analytica situation since over a year ag

you know, you have tom wheeler, former ftc commissioner writing in "the new york times" about how weeed more open api so we can do research on how problematic content is spreading on these networks. >> right. >> yet, at the same time, we have a big push to close them down because of privacy. to be fair to facebook, i'd be like, what the hell do you want us to do? >> but i think you can look to some things that exist, right? maybe this is where phipps makes sense -- >> where what? >> sorry, phipps. phipps makes sense -- >> for the folks in the audience. >> fair information practice principles. so, it's just a data governance framework. and most privacy advocates are very well versed in fips. it's sort of outdated in some ways but offers a really good way to think about how to govern data well. so, for example, when i say obligations on researchers, that doesn't mean restrictions in the terms of this is a good project or this isn't a good project, per se, but it's about privacy and security restrictions and requirements, you know, maybe limiting the amount of data, the scope of the dat

wheeler,chairman tom that regulators would be skeptical.11, the justice department byd the proposed deal under president trump passes fcc, spent t-mobile might have a sympathetic audience, in the merger announcement. accelerates, in the technology. new york, from anthony, good morning, go ahead. >> i'm retired since 2004. miller, a very -- america is not aware of what was done. it to almost every working american citizen. but c-span never has on anything about that. far, i know of 2 million who have lost pensions. i lost three quarters of my pension, 1000 and month. it is very hard to make ends meet this way. social security does not cut it. >> thinks for the suggestion. live done plenty when it comes to pension security. go to the video library and you can see some segments with events taken in and hearings on that topic. a lot of broad topics with pensions. .ou can also go to the website last saturday at the white house correspondents dinner, with sunday from the comedian, and the comedy routine on saturday. while honoring civility and gr