ajitis tom witter and a pye.om witter was chairman then, democrat, and pye is chairman now, a republican. >> there is no accident the regulatory framework we have built is depressing broadband investment. >> we are not seeing a decline in broadband infrastructure investment. you can say it, but it does not make it a fact. >> saxby for themselves. i would be -- facts speak for themselves. i would be happy to cement sworn declarations. >> i would be happy to submit the information that the companies provide under penalty of sec to their investors about their investments. >> what is striking is that ceos with pending mergers will say about the top priorities. >> i'm talking about at&t and comcast, companies like that. >> who are typically repeat players before arranging -- before an agency that regulates highly. host: what are you saying there? guest: that is great. usually it is the other way around, that people in public are collegial. i don't oppose collegiality. you won't see the disagreement be stated. here, yo