tommy bryant said he is only saying what he heard the mayor say. african-american mayor and his name is wayman newton. he was sitting there and looking at the other councilmember who actually got up and started crying after this all played out. we put the first screen up because the mayor obviously said, look, he doesn't -- he didn't ever say this, and he feels like this is some sort of political stunt. now, tommy bryant, you would think, after all the calls from the community, would step down. he says he's not stepping down. he's really not sorry for saying it. take a listen. >> no, absolutely not. absolutely not. i may consider running for mayor next time because i did what needed to be done. it needed to be brought to light what kind of a person the mayor is in the city of tarrant. >> reporter: so, if you're keeping score here, basically tommy bryant saying the mayor said this about the african-american council man and that he was just repeating it out loud. but, of course, he used the full language there. of course, there's a lot of people in t

>> well, see, tommy bryant wants us to debate that, don. he wants to play this game, as if we don't know what racism is. this man is over 70 years old. you know what i'm saying? he knows what racism is. and he is, absolutely, using politics and the ways that racism is such a -- a -- you know, igniter of controversy in our country, to his political advantage. using the n-word, just to be very clear, is racist. and another thing that tommy bryant wants us to do is to debate whether black folks should use the n-word, right? you see how, in this instance, he, immediately, deflected to mayor newton and tried to put the blame on him for sparking this whole controversy. but he's been around long enough to know that it was, absolutely, demeaning and humiliating for him to call a fellow-council woman a house n-word, right? he did that to her face and we saw the humiliation and the -- the pain that she felt, when he did that. so, it's insidious. it's disgusting. um, and frankly, it's an example of the time that we live in. where people, politicians i

>> well, see, tommy bryant wants us to debate that, don.e wranlants to play a game as e don't know what racism is. this man is over 70 years old. he knows what racism is. and he is absolutely using politics and the ways that racism is such a -- you know, an igniter of conversation in our country, to his political advantage. using the "n" word just to be very clear is racist, and another thing that tommy bryant wants us to do is to debate whether black folks should use the "n" word. he immediately deflects to mayor newton and tried to put the blame on him for sparking the whole conversation. but he's been around long enough to know that it was absolutely demeaning and humiliating for him to call a fellow council woman a house "n" word. he did it do her face, and we saw the pain and humiliation. it's disgusting and an example of the time we live in. where politics in particular appeal to the extreme. think want extreme constituents to see they are unafraid to break social norms and think they they will score social points for doing so. >> he

here is the moment when tarrant council man -- city council man tommy bryant stood up and used this derogatorynow, for context here, if it needs any, in this meeting bryant was claiming that he was just repeating the term that the mayor wayman newton said about a city council woman veronica freeman. moments after the outburst, you see the council woman breaking down into tears before walking away. obviously it doesn't matter if he was repeating something and the mayor here denying he ever said that. joining me now is tarrant county council woman veronica joined by her attorney. thank you for being with us. this is a video we saw days ago, and we saw your reaction. i just wonder if you could share with us how you felt in that moment hearing that. >> good morning. thank you for giving me this opportunity to shed light on the discrimination, the harassment and the bullying that's taking place in tarrant, alabama. well, when i heard that, i was in shock. i was in disbelief. i was hurt. i was ashamed. i was speechless. and i was humiliated. >> and you clearly feel, and i think what you're saying he