our fabric understands with the example of tommy douglas.e know the only way to bring in something as important as affordable child care is to build a solid foundation and that means balanced budget. there will be times when you have to spend win 2008 we're in the worst recession. that is not the case now. we are already leaving them in massive ecological and social debt. they don't need the economic dead as well. >> this is a recurring issue as we enter the last part of the debate. that is what all of your visions are for this great country. but mr. mulcair will you do to build a new economy? spam that we will make sure it's a knowledge-based economy because that's the way of the future. canada has to be playing a more overall. when i travel across the country on what we call a kitchen table to her, i met a young couple in between them they had $130,000 of student data. with a $24,000 to your child care fees, when is the young couple supposed to start a family? that is the reality and believe it or not for the couple in the economy. let's g

we brought in medicare with tommy douglas and we will bring in childcare across canada. host: your biography is called "straight of conviction" but is thatwillingness to avoid at all costs part of your opportunism or is that a political play? of mulcair: i've been part local life for 30 years and practiced law for 10 years but i have always serve the public. my wife is a psychologist who psychologists -- in psychology -- we all serve the public. this is a more noble calling. sure when mye granddaughter goes to university, she does not have to ros level people are borrowing at today. i don't want to do like mr. trudeau and leave a massive debt on the back of future generations. leaving no deficit is a challenge to the m.d. the path fabric. we know the only way to bring in something as important as quality, affordable childcare is to build on a solid foundation. for us, that means a balanced budget. 2008, we were in the worst recession since the 1930's. of course, everyone agrees we have to spend at that time. we don't want to leave more billions on the backs of future gen

the only party to stand up against that was tommy douglas is ndp.s the courage of their convictions. when we started our fight against the 50 what the vast majority were in favor of it. mr. harper has done an excellent selling job. by the time it is finished canadians understood two things, more to do with the politics of fear and division, and every single group that came and testified, every expert, and for former prime ministers including three liberals all said it was wrong. the ndp stood up against pkt one. [applause] >> i'll get to that in a moment but throughout this campaign indirect references and in direct references both of these gentlemen have various points of attacked my father. let me say very clearly, i am incredibly proud to be his son and i'm incredibly lucky to instill those values. [applause] >> and when you talk about a legacy that my father leaves behind, first and foremost is the charter of rights and freedom which is defined can't as a country that stands up for individual rights even against government want to take those awa

[applause] tommy douglas took over saskatchewan that the liberals ran into bankruptcy. 11 consecutivealanced budgets in a row. brought in free public health care. when we bring in quality child care it won't be back on future generations, on the basis after balanced budget. >> this is foreign policy debate. we had an economic debate week before last. recenter the discussion in our remaining moments. mr. harper, back to you on climb pat change and -- >> parties will never actually lay out precisely where it is they intend to reduce emissions. sector by sector you know what you're going to do, to be able to make sure you minimize cost on jobs in canadian economy. we're investing a billion dollars a year, 10 years on green energy and energy efficiency. only real policies ever proposed by either of these parties are effectively carbon taxes where we hit consumers. frankly carbon taxes are not about reduces emissions. they're about raising revenue for the government. mr. trudeau is right, mr. mulcair's plan has been rejected by ndp government. >> completely false. >> gentlemen, we wrap up