medal of freedom to tommy franks, what is your reaction to that? >> travesty. the narrative of the iraq war that's president just gave us, o put it mildly, incomplete, franks did succeed in toppling saddam hussein. but that was not sufficient. that was not sufficient to either achieve our political provide r to deliverance to iraqi people. iraqi is coming apart at the seams, hundreds on a monthly basis. hundreds being killed by the renewed insurgency that barely makes the papers. >> whole thing waste of time? waste of money, waste of -- >> i think -- yeah, it was. i understand the response, world is a better place because saddam hussein is gone. i suppose that is true. >> were these men evil that got us involved in there? i pulled that out of the air. how would you describe -- >> they were arrogant and they were naive. it's hard to understand in a way because remember when -- remember when the republicans won the 2000 election. part of the republican critique of the democrats during the clinton era was when the democratic national security team was nike amateur

but in iraq, tommy franks' did. the force defeated saddam hussein's regime and reached baghdad in less than a month. the longest fastest advance in the history of american warfare. today they're building a secure democrat inge future. one of the highest distinctions of history is to be call ad lib ray tore. and tommy franks will always carry that title. >> the other person i think -- it was not don rumsfeld. he was probably no inn the audience. but paul wolfowitz. what's your reaction to that. >> the travesty. the narrative of the iraq war was to put it mildly, incomplete. franks did succeed in toppling saddam hussein. but that was not sufficient. it was not sufficient to our chief political services or to provide the lib rans to the iraqi people. the iraqi people are coming apart as the seams on a hundreds -- on a monthly basis, hundreds of iraqis being killed by the insurgency. >> whole thing a waste of time, money? >> i think -- well, no -- >> yeah. i understand the response. the warmed is a better place. i suppo

november 2001 reveals that donald rumsfeld met as early as then with centcom commander general tommy franks to review plans for the decapitation of the iraqi government. they discuss ideas of how to start a war. one suggestion is to create a dispute over wmd inspections. >> this is a regime that agreed to international inspections, then kicked out the inspectors. >> 9/11 made it politically possible for the first time to persuade the american people to break a tradition of not launching offensive wars. >> the pressure to find evidence falls heavily on all 15 u.s. intelligence agencies. >> the extremely strong policy wind that was blowing at the time, and that everyone in government corridors felt, made it absolutely clear what was preferred and what was not preferred. >> atta, mohammed atta, leader of the 9/11 hijackings. from prague comes an intelligence report of a photograph allegedly showing mohammed atta meeting with a high-ranking iraqi intelligence officer. the photograph of the supposed meeting is never made publicly available. >> mohammed atta was a slight guy, barely what, 5'5", 5

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