you know -- tom tommy lasorda. i don't think he would have talked anyway, he's never acknowledged that his own son was gay or died of aids. i got in. touch with his daughter, and she asked that the family be left out of the story. i didn't do that, obviously. so in this case, those two villains i didn't get a chance to talk to. >> wait, i have to ask. so you called tommy if lasorda's daughter, and she literally said can leave the family out of it? >> yeah. >> what did you say to that? >> i didn't know what to say. it was a facebook directing message, and it just seemed absurd to me. her dad was the manager of the dodgers. it's been written about, you know, in plenty of other books and magazines. i'm not going to leave the lasordas out of the story. i couldn't honor that request, so it didn't seem worth replying to. >> it's interesting because when lasorda died not very long ago, i thought about his gay son and the peter richmond story in gq, and i thought about you working on this book. and, you know, i think it ha