actually tommy robinson does that surprise you you're more like a boy. it doesn't surprise you. and want to be officials are trying to support by playing right into people's hatreds and fears and prejudices and you know these things that it makes them more popular and therefore. they can speed up their career and i think that boris johnson is a perfect is the example of that and this is quite dangerous because again when you have in such a position of leadership people who do play injuries and who abide by racism themself then it is very dangerous for a country such as britain that claims to abide by human rights principles and claim to be pure is democracy and so for most for the solace those who know vote for crosstalk coming up next. hello and welcome to cross talk where all things are considered peter lavelle parts of gerrard cushion his deal of the century have been made public and the reception has not been good focusing on aid and infrastructure the deal is silent on the most contentious political issues and for all intensive purposes the long proposed 2 state solution ap

campaign, tommy robinson who was a memberof the campaign, tommy robinson who was a member of the british, of some but he who has given competence to far right forces all across the girl globe, from pittsburgh to charles phil to christchurch. two here in london at the mosque attacks, where people have actually been killed based on, you know, race, hatred. so trump is responsible for them? i'm not saying he's directly was possible for those attacks, but i think the role that he has played essentially this global megaphone given credence to these forces, this isa man given credence to these forces, this is a man who retreated britain first, a known far right group with fascists within it, i think that's problematic coming out. black thank you julie, we have got to leave it there. you can gather the strength of feeling. there are people who are opposed to his visit to london, although they may not be on the streets to markham their bigger protests planned, this is what we have seen today so far. yes, indeed, dan thank you very much, apologies on the break—up for the audio there. ido on the b

you know, walking to westminster, when tommy robinson and his gang were out there saying stuff about's an organised protest of [u natics would hear... but that's an organised protest of lunatics though it. they are not lunatics, they are powerful hard right people do not dismiss them. i'm not dismissing them but there are fingerless they are not frivolous. the average person in the street... who is the average person on the street? limit i'm talking about people i grew up. i think michael is being sympathetic to you. i'm saying most people are good people and to suggest most of the country now is... i'm not saying most of the people and saying that the very serious problem and. that you said you came here. 45 years ago and now things are better and then they went back, i don't say that, don't say... people do have sympathy with the problem. things can get worse because the hard right it's across europe now they are very well organised. let's move on, and then of g re nfell tower, organised. let's move on, and then of grenfell tower, two years that incredible fire, you will never ever

do you think your association with tommy robinson, for example, was a mistake, a vote loser was blue certain other parties and where their leaders have been over the past 30 or 40 years, i would rather sit down with tommy robinson than the leaders of terrorist organisations. ok, obviously you are referring to the labour leader. equally, do you think that images costing you. you have the same politics with brexit. they seem the same politics with brexit. they seem to be doing better. while they have. but they have come out of nowhere with big guns on board, ann widdecombe and the rest of the conservative. don't forget, ukip has beenin conservative. don't forget, ukip has been in that situation already, in 2015, we suddenly had an influx of conservatives because they saw ukip as being the way forward. and then promptly disappeared as soon as the referendum was over. i think they have got some structural problems within that party that will turn around and bite them. if you were to add up in the end whatever the brexit party does, your vote, their vote, the stp are even standing on a pr

you know in the army we don't want private sitting down and having their photographs taken with tommy robinsons in this country, we have to separate out what the purpose of these protests is. absolutely but there are 364 other daysin absolutely but there are 364 other days in the year you can make that point. but donald trump is here on this day. 0k, well he will be here another day and you can make the point. this is about conciliation. we are on our way to stand side by side with our allies and also the enemies of the war will stand side by side with germans and it is about conciliation and getting on with each other and making sure it doesn't happen again. there are 364 daysin doesn't happen again. there are 364 days in the year you could protest against trump and today isn't the day, it is about the veterans that laid their lives damn. it is a very good point you make that making sure it doesn't happen again. how did it happen that time? it happened because in the 19305, people appeased hitler and normalised hitler and made the argument, he appeased hitler and normalised hitlerand made the