joe he says what your guest support a programme on tommy robinson and if not she's a hypocrite .ite. oh of course i would if it was done to the same journalistic rigour well, it seems to be a fatwah on him. i don't think he'd be given any airtime. i think the question i have just answered, i think using words like fatwa, actually, when you think of attacks on people like salman rushdie, which nearly cost him his life and it certainly cost him, that was a poor choice. so it was poor choice of words. and that's sort of thing that that's the sort of thing that i think you know, but of think is, you know, but of course, i think anybody who is a controversial figure or anybody who of who creates this level of discussion is a valid subject and any decent journalist and he won't, you know, just barker baker will not have just gone, oh, i'm just going off to interview this one. it will have gone through so many. and i do think i feel really strongly about this as a journalist, you know, the headlines of newspaper articles which story came articles from which story came do always reflect